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  • Strode
    1st Chair, Cowbell
    • Nov 08, 2011
    • 2292

    Fishing a wire thru the A pillar?

    Has anybody ever successfully fished a wire thru their A pillar? I'm about to give up. It seems like it's a solid piece of metal on top.

    Just wondering......
    Brad
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  • Tripwire
    AMC 4 OH! 1
    • Jul 30, 2000
    • 4656

    #2
    o you mean the windshield pillar? i tried once with no luck, but my wire was small enough that i slipped it into the door gasket pinch weld side no problem
    Abort? Retry? Ignore? >

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    • JP
      Where horseshoes are not a game
      • Dec 12, 2012
      • 214

      #3
      Its pretty much solid. I dont know if you can sucessfully navigate all that stuff.

      heres the best pick I got. Ill take one of the new clean one tomorrow so you have an exact idea.




      fill in the missing strip and its closed off




      this is the angle looking down into the pillar from the roof. Its got that same spounge crap and sealant goop in it so any crack that might be there is going to have it in there.




      just food for thought:

      the lower level has this hallow section and you could probably drill into it with a 1/8" bit and feed the wire thorugh that way. Its exposed above the headliner position so you wouldnt see it. Once its in the it will come out in the door hinge attachment area and you can use the hole that the door wires run thorugh to grab it.



      Ill take the pic of the new one tomorrow if you need it.

      JP
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      • Strode
        1st Chair, Cowbell
        • Nov 08, 2011
        • 2292

        #4
        Yea, that's ok JP. I've gotten a fiberglass rod from the bottom up to the top, but no further. And no luck going down from the top.

        I'll have to find another way. I've run other wires back to the B pillar, I'll have to extend these wires and do it with these too.

        I have 3 wires for the new mirror I'm putting in, and I don't think they'll fit under the pinch weld strip.

        Thanks,
        Brad
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        • bigun
          • Feb 10, 2003
          • 20092

          #5
          Originally posted by Strode182
          Yea, that's ok JP. I've gotten a fiberglass rod from the bottom up to the top, but no further. And no luck going down from the top.

          I'll have to find another way. I've run other wires back to the B pillar, I'll have to extend these wires and do it with these too.

          I have 3 wires for the new mirror I'm putting in, and I don't think they'll fit under the pinch weld strip.

          Thanks,
          Color me confused! If you're able to get a rod from the bottom to the top tie a piece of wire or string to it pull it down, then pull your wire up with it
          charlie
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          • mdill
            Gone. Not Forgotten.
            • Nov 22, 2000
            • 7076

            #6
            I think he means the rod gets to the top, not through the top.
            (Hits the metal at the top and stops. )
            Originally posted by bigun
            Color me confused! If you're able to get a rod from the bottom to the top tie a piece of wire or string to it pull it down, then pull your wire up with it
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            • bigun
              • Feb 10, 2003
              • 20092

              #7
              Originally posted by mdill
              I think he means the rod gets to the top, not through the top.
              (Hits the metal at the top and stops. )
              AH HA, Ok go to Home Depot or the like, go to the electrical section and look for an extenda bit or bell hanger bit they can be had all the way to 56 inches long. They are a drill bit mounted on a flexible shaft
              charlie
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              • serehill
                Gone,Never Forgotten.
                • Nov 22, 2009
                • 8619

                #8
                HMMM

                LOL so you are going to drill this from the bottom??????

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                • mdill
                  Gone. Not Forgotten.
                  • Nov 22, 2000
                  • 7076

                  #9
                  Originally posted by serehill
                  LOL so you are going to drill this from the bottom??????

                  You would be surprised at what you can drill with the flex extensions, I don't think there is room to do it from the top. would be interesting to see it attempted, with my luck I would pop a hole through the front of the a-pillar, or worse through the windshield side
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                  • Strode
                    1st Chair, Cowbell
                    • Nov 08, 2011
                    • 2292

                    #10
                    I'm not trying to do it. I fished plenty of walls using all kinds of techniques. Flexible bits are handy, but I don't think they're steel rated.

                    Anyway, wires are already extended and ran down thru the B-pillars...on to the next thing.
                    Brad
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                    • serehill
                      Gone,Never Forgotten.
                      • Nov 22, 2009
                      • 8619

                      #11
                      I here you brad

                      I have fished all kinds of stuff using flex steel & butterflies & all kinds of stuff the only way up is through the B pillars. Even AMC new it that's why the dome lights & map light go up that way.

                      Good call Brad

                      The problem is you have to make about a 30 degree turn right at the top & there's no way you can make the turn 3 feet up the pillar.. It simply not a straight drill. The flex bit because of the angle will walk sideways & bind. The key to making a flex bit work that far in is that the plate be a 90 degree angle to the bit. is close proximity if it drill it will be right out the top.

                      The subject I though was drilling from the bottom. Making an assumption with the reference length mentioned. I do agree closer to being able to do it from the top but I'm betting no. There lot's of knowledge & finesse to these types of bit but they are not designed for this type of structure. I have been surprised many times. The suprise is from disasters as much as successes.
                      Last edited by serehill; 09-01-2013, 03:57 PM.

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                      • bigun
                        • Feb 10, 2003
                        • 20092

                        #12
                        Is there enough room to get a torch head at the top if so burn a hole in it!
                        charlie
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                        Originally posted by Gambler68
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                        • SJTD
                          304 AMC
                          • Apr 26, 2012
                          • 1953

                          #13
                          Even if you get the wire through, how do you make sure it's not sitting on a sharp edge or burr?
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                          • muddy
                            258 I6
                            • Aug 30, 2011
                            • 322

                            #14
                            Air

                            You can use compressed air to blow a string through, then use the
                            String to pull the wire.

                            However this method may not work with fan a pillars, as the
                            Pics look like they are closed off at the top. It also doesn't
                            Do anything to deal with possible sharp edges inside the cavity.
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                            • CJ5
                              350 Buick
                              • May 07, 2002
                              • 944

                              #15
                              I tried to do it to run my mic wire and could not successfully make it happen.
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