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Old 04-25-2008, 07:02 PM
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Removing Seat belt bolts??

I am having some difficulty removing the seat belt bolts in order to install new carpeting in my '91 GW. Any advice???
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:20 PM
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Which bolts are you having trouble with? Some of them you can heat up with a torch (you said you were replacing carpet). You can also weld a real bolt on to them instead of the torx bolt. The front bolts on the retractable units are a lot harder though. It's pretty hard to get to those.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:23 PM
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PB Blaster, lots of it. Best quality torx bit you can buy. Cheater bar. Also, make sure that torx bit is a very tight fit with the bolt. Lots of people blame bits or bolts when they strip out, when they had one size too small of bit to begin with.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:32 PM
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go underneath and wire brush the bolts, then use the PB Blaster.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:35 PM
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If it's the rear spindles, try what you have read. Last resort is hacksaw and find new bolts/spindles. I broke 2 torx before resorting to the blade. After the blade removes the spindle, the lock wrench will finish the exit.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:51 PM
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Freeze-off from CRC at the zone, or kragen, works better than pb blaster
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:20 PM
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I am having some difficulty removing the seat belt bolts in order to install new carpeting in my '91 GW. Any advice???

I had trouble getting the bottom bolts out... ended up gettig one side out... here's the play by play w/ diagrams & pics

http://tc.wagoneer.net/sblog/index.php?d=10&m=10&y=07

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Old 04-25-2008, 11:03 PM
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I had one bolt that was so stuck I lost every #50 torx bit I tried, and it still refused to budge the tiniest bit. I couldn't get a nut welded to it, so I just drilled it out, which took a very long time, a drill bit that was ruined, and a bunch of cutting fluid. I put a 7/16" bolt in instead. Funny because when I took all the rear belts out of the rusty Cherokee, they came out fine, but the Wag that has much less rust, had the froze bolt.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:46 AM
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Funny because when I took all the rear belts out of the rusty Cherokee, they came out fine, but the Wag that has much less rust, had the froze bolt.

See. . .rust isn't all bad.
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Old 04-26-2008, 01:24 PM
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It took me 2 weeks a full can of pb blaster and 4 torx sockets, (cheap harbor freight with a life time warranty) to get all my seat belt bolts out . I finally resorted to using a 650 lb impact gun rocking them back and forth until they came out. I also had to grind the head off of one because it had rusted so bad I couldn't get the bit into it. I actually broke 3 sockets by hand until I switched to the impact. I welded a nut on the ground off bolt and it came off so easy it made me think I should have done that in the first place.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:13 AM
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Was hard going with other things I tried but mine came out easy once there was no material left holding the head to the bolt shaft! I donno what the hell drill bit that was that I used -- some miscellaneous one laying in the corner of a toolbox alone -- but it cut through that material like butter (compared to the other drill bits I destroyed). Am dreading tackling the driver side... have broken or twisted I donno how many torx bits... get 'em any stronger and they destroy the bolt head.

Whoever invented Torx has a special level of hell reserved for them... just above the clowns who decided to use them for seat belt bolts!!

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Old 04-27-2008, 10:20 AM
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I always start with a breaker bar. The impact seems to booger up the torx head or bit too much. As mentioned, proper size and good seating are EXTREMELY important. PB blaster is also your friend. Use it liberally.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:27 PM
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Padawan,

Try beating the bolt head with a two-pound hammer after applying PB B'Laster. Right about the time that the sheet metal begins to bend and the bolt head becomes too deformed to accept the Torx bit, the bolt will be ready to come out (maybe).

Do the next owner (or your future self) a favor: upon reinstallation, paint the snot out of the threads with anti-seize.

Good luck.

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Old 04-30-2008, 05:34 PM
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I had the most luck with an impact. Making sure to exert a lot of pressure downwards to keep from stripping it. Rocking it forward and backward helped free it.
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