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Old 06-19-2014, 06:05 AM
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Tailgate stock wiring harness

Today i grinded into the harness between tailgate and body....
2 cables now without any isolation and some wires from the cable are cuted...

Now i have 3 ways:

a) cut out the defect ones, and crimp in 2 new cables

b) doing complet new 2 cables , but would need all connecters new

c) finding a OE/OEM "plug in" tailgate harness

First prissy problem: finding the correct cable (with the stock colors)
Second: finding the stock connectors

So, are there any vendors selling the stock harness for the tailgate? Or is this one in any set included?
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:44 PM
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Markus, I don't know of anyone selling a new tailgate harness. You're closest plug-n-play option is finding a used one. But even then you're just installing another poor OEM quality harness. I don't recommend splicing new wires into and old AMC harness but if time is a factor it'll get you by till you can fix it properly. I recommend just building a new one. I've built a few and yes it's boring and time consuming but it's not hard. Just put the old harness on a board separating the wires with brads, push/pull pins, whatever ya got. lay the brads out in the same pattern below the original. Then build a new harness one wire at a time. Yeah it'll cost a few bucks for quality components and some quality tools but you'll end up with a plug-n-play harness better than original that you'll never have to mess with again. If the rig is a keeper it's worth the effort.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:02 PM
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Joe,
thanks! Sounds like a good tip! I will try to find a used one and do in the wintermonth a new one
Option b) is to fix the defect length with cut out and soft soldering together..

Again thanks for your thougths!

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Markus, I don't know of anyone selling a new tailgate harness. You're closest plug-n-play option is finding a used one. But even then you're just installing another poor OEM quality harness. I don't recommend splicing new wires into and old AMC harness but if time is a factor it'll get you by till you can fix it properly. I recommend just building a new one. I've built a few and yes it's boring and time consuming but it's not hard. Just put the old harness on a board separating the wires with brads, push/pull pins, whatever ya got. lay the brads out in the same pattern below the original. Then build a new harness one wire at a time. Yeah it'll cost a few bucks for quality components and some quality tools but you'll end up with a plug-n-play harness better than original that you'll never have to mess with again. If the rig is a keeper it's worth the effort.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:16 PM
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rebuilding

Solder heat shrink & larger heat shrink to cover the entire set up is easy.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:13 PM
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Joe,
thanks! Sounds like a good tip! I will try to find a used one and do in the wintermonth a new one
Option b) is to fix the defect length with cut out and soft soldering together..

Again thanks for your thougths!

Why even buy a used one?
Just repair yours, then build a new one if you want new.
It would be very easy, wiring diagrams are online, and you have one to look @ if you get stuck.
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:44 PM
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because i have now not the time for...other things to fix, i need my capacitifity for things to bring her on the road

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Why even buy a used one?
Just repair yours, then build a new one if you want new.
It would be very easy, wiring diagrams are online, and you have one to look @ if you get stuck.
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:04 PM
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Going to take more time to replace it than fix it.

Plus cost + shipping + waiting for it to show up.
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Old 06-20-2014, 03:02 AM
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This would be very prissy, a wireless remote tailgate
A completely new harness.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=163645
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I recommend just building a new one. I've built a few and yes it's boring and time consuming but it's not hard. Just put the old harness on a board separating the wires with brads, push/pull pins, whatever ya got. lay the brads out in the same pattern below the original. Then build a new harness one wire at a time.???
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Reconnect the wires anyway that seems to work, insulate them and run it till it stops working.

You building a harness is fine. How do you think the OEM harnesses came into being? Immaculate Conception? Somebody built them from wire and connectors, they are not sacred.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:22 AM
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actual at the Bay -)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-86-Jeep...101481&vxp=mtr

Looks like this is not really correct...
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actual at the Bay -)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-86-Jeep...101481&vxp=mtr

Looks like this is not really correct...

That is the correct PN# for a '82-'86 tailgate harness, and looks correct to me.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:28 PM
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but the connectors at the end are looking for me nit correct, there should be a 3 pin and 2 pin and one 1 pin. not?

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That is the correct PN# for a '82-'86 tailgate harness, and looks correct to me.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:30 PM
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If you want to make a nice flat cable, lay the wires out, hot glue them side by side every few inches, cover in heatshrink, then sandwich the assy in some sort of sheetmetal or bar, and then heat the whole thing.

you can then use some brake cleaner or acetone to remove heatshrink lettering and you have a better than factory harness.
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but the connectors at the end are looking for me nit correct, there should be a 3 pin and 2 pin and one 1 pin. not?

Everything that should be in an '86 is there: the defroster timer connector, the defroster leads to the back glass, the six pin barrel connector for the tailgate switch, the motor leads, the license plate light leads and the safety switch hookup.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:23 PM
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Cant imagine reusing that factory wiring harness after buying serehill's wireless harness. Im all about using factory parts and wish I could buy all of the NOS in the world, but having the tailgate wired directly to the battery and it being wireless is very nice.

I used split braided sleeve where the factory harness goes through the tailgate into the body. Seems to work good. Ive got a parts Jeep that Im going to snag the wiring harness out of just for kicks. Hang it on my wall and stare at it.
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