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Old 12-12-2014, 09:30 PM
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EXCITED!!!!

Heading to pick up an 83 wagoner. Wanted to go look at a 77 Cherokee but that fellow quit answering my text

don't know a whole lot about this wagoneer yet, but its supposed to run good, Ill find out, Ill have a 3 hour test drive. PO has pulled all interior for a paint job that he was going to do, lucky me its going to all be in the back. Ill start putting it all back in when I get home. So far I all really know is 360, 727, and NP229 (228), not sure he said it had a vacuum switch, I believe 83 with vacuum should be 229. Its has the wood and the trim pulled, but the trim is still all there, not sure what Ill do with that yet. don't know if I can reinstall the trim, Im guess yes, as well as someone out there makes "new" wood/vinyl pieces. I post up some more pics and details when I get home tomorrow. Looking forward to the trip home, probably take some back roads.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:57 PM
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Cool. Yeah an 83 is the vac operated 229 along with a vac disco front differential left axle shaft(D44) Lotsa folks poo poo that set up but it's not a deal breaker if you keep up on the vac hose integrity every few years and monthly or so switch between 2-4WD to keep the vac motors from internally corroding and going TU. Other than that it's a decently robust and reliable system for normal use/expectations.
Depending on goals, your grief/expense is going to come in re-hanging the plastic fake wood wallpaper.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:59 PM
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I loved the vacuum shift front axle in my 83. It never gave me any troubles what so ever, after I replaced some bad vacuum hoses.
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Old 12-13-2014, 05:48 PM
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X2 on the vac system. A little vac line replacement/maintanence and it is reliable. Way moreso than the thermal actuated systems on my chevies. The 229 is a good tcase for my snow/oversand uses. Enjoy your new ride.
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:16 PM
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Vacuum lines updates are a must. I opened the hood and WOW all the lines. I think my j10 had 3 maybe 4. But that will need to wait a couple of days. I have brake lights but no taillights, not sure yet whats going on with that. to my surprise the PO just put an rebuilt 2150 on it. It runs good I95 at 65-70 no issues. interior is all in the back (that's going to be fun) and going to need to source some window parts. Not sure yet, motors are fine, I guess the regulators (?) are broken on 2 windows, other 2 are fine. The rear glass has some issue, again not a motor problem maybe off track, IDK, coming from the J10 all of this is fairly new, just go to get out there and see whats going on. Got back a lot later than I thought, so this day is a wash. I think so far the coolest thing is the original radio/tape deck, works like a charm. No speakers in the waggy, I took a old house speaker and sat it between the front seats. Well, the fun begins tomorrow morning with those lights.
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:20 PM
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I loved the vacuum shift front axle in my 83. It never gave me any troubles what so ever, after I replaced some bad vacuum hoses.

How exactly is the proper way of using this system. I understand the slide to the right for 4wd, but I see a little pull tab underneath the switch that needs to be pulled. Do I pull that first then slide the switch over, or do I slide the switch over to 4wd 1st then pull the axle vacuum? Or does it even matter what order I do them
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The reason for the pull then slide is so you don't do it while driving. It's a stop and shift system.
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The reason for the pull then slide is so you don't do it while driving. It's a stop and shift system.


thanks! BTW do you know if the lock cylinders for the rear hatch is available. I have a housing, but there no lock cylinder there. I did a google search, but only found doors and ignition.
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As Carnuck said it's a two handed operation.forcing you stop. With the 83/84 front dico axle you must be stopped when shifting into 4WD. If you try to out smart/tricky finger the switch you get some crunchy(read expensive) noises from the front axle. Play by the rules and the vac axle will serve you well.
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Ok. I get it. Pull with one hand and slide with the other.
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I have the cover but don't remember what I did with the lock. It goes into the window switch.
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do you know if the lock cylinders for the rear hatch is available. I have a housing, but there no lock cylinder there. I did a google search, but only found doors and ignition.

PM Tanker or Halftrack(sp?) they have an SJ yard and lots of parts.
Probably cost ~$10-$15 to have a cylinder re-keyed by a locksmith if you bring it to them.

I have one or two laying around somewhere here, but they can probably help you out.
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Had two different interiors. Im going with the darker of the two, per the wifes instructions. As soon as I fix the window issue and find my 4x4 vacuum leak, its going to be awesome. Runs like a champ, but can get a little better.

Also, After I get the interior done, I post pics of the pieces a have left over, should be the better part of all the panels, maybe somebody wants to do some trading.
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