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Old 03-20-2018, 11:06 AM
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Jeep made Retro Wagoneer at Easter Jeep Safari

Oh dear God this is a gorgeous rig! BKilby sent me a text to google this ride and, Oh man did Jeep nail this build! They did such an awesome job on the flares, especially!
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...mage=100646658

I'm not a fan of the tail lights but the rest of the rig is breath taking. I love the color combo and the wheels. Oh so Beautiful! Thank you Jeep for building/bringing this! I can't wait to see some more pics/videos of this! If I wasn't already married, I would be looking for an engagement ring to propose to this trophy! Thanks for the heads-up, Brad!

Great. Now I can't work anymore. Too busy lusting over these pics.
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:17 AM
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It's a beauty for sure. I wish they would have made 2 sets of them flares while making one. Lol.
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:14 PM
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More data on it:
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:47 PM
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What? The early 60's tail lights were the first thing Jeep ruined on the Wag when they went to those bulging chrome abominations.

On the other site there's a link to a video where they were calling this a "concept". I find that offensive since there's nothing conceptual about it. They dropped it long ago. Call it what it is, a restoration.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:34 PM
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It's a restomod. Some journalists don't know the difference.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:06 PM
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I also noticed they deleted a line in the rear quarter. If you follow the lower body line on a NT or Wago, it starts at the bumper, goes over the wheel wells, down the lower portion of the doors, up over the rear wheel wells and straight to rear. On WT Cherokee's it a random extra body line behind the rear flare sinec the wheel wells are taller. They also changes the lowest body line from a crease to a line. To see what I am talking about, look at all the lines behind the rear wheels and compare between now and then pics. Looks really clean!
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:23 PM
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Very nice restomod... no radio antenna... no clock in the glovebox door...

The tailights are period perfect, no potmetal to bubble... it should have been a 3 piece bumper... but at least they kept the manual tailgate...
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Looks like they ruined a nice early Wagoneer to me...

Edit. Not that it looks bad though. Just too bad they cut up an early Wag.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:53 PM
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It's a restomod. Some journalists don't know the difference.

Yeah, I know but for some reason I hate that term. Couldn't think of another.
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That is a nice looking bunch of Jeeps. Wonder what happens to the concept cars after they lose their initial flare?
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The "before" is like my '65
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That Waggoner looks really cool. I dig the body color but not the interior.
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:08 AM
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It's a beauty for sure. I wish they would have made 2 sets of them flares while making one. Lol.

NOPE. Brad, you be out of luck .. lol Next, you'll be wanting the paint code too ! Ha ha ha ...

These "concept" builds are to honor Jeep history .. AND - there is a reason when we spend this kind of money on builds like this. Looking for reactions from the market and teasing if Jeep should venture into this market again.

One of the big differences of these they are true functional driving vehicles, not just show vehicles. The press will get to drive and wheel these at Jeep Safari.

This thing was a VERY nice original Waggy .. the metal was phenomenal when stripped down. In some respects its hard to modify an original, but any one of us could have bought it off Craig's list... That's where it came from.

Lots of subtle mods.. 5' of wheelbase added, link coils all around, 35" tires, Hemi, rockers are beefed up to be rock rails, It drives GREAT.
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Lots of subtle mods.. 5' of wheelbase added, link coils all around, 35" tires, Hemi, rockers are beefed up to be rock rails, It drives GREAT.
I am really curious if it sits on the original frame.
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Old 03-21-2018, 10:32 AM
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Oh, man... I'm getting all sweaty and kind of nauseous. I want that thing bad
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Oh, man... I'm getting all sweaty and kind of nauseous. I want that thing bad
RIGHT?!?!?!
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These "concept" builds are to honor Jeep history .. AND - there is a reason when we spend this kind of money on builds like this. Looking for reactions from the market and teasing if Jeep should venture into this market again.
You guys built this one, too? Your yellow '79 is one of the reasons I decided to get a FSJ.
One of the stories or videos I have seen on this Wago specifically mentioned trying to stir up buzz since the Wagoneer name will return in 2020. I respect what KaiserMan is saying but see why this was made. A fully restored Wagoneer would not make nearly the buzz this rig will. We all have our own tastes and KaiserMan's is original, mine is pretty much this (subtle changes to an original body, modern drivetrain/suspension).

Do you have any idea what will happen to this rig in the coming years? Any way it can signed over to me so I can make some roadtrips in it?
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Lots of subtle mods.. 5' of wheelbase added, link coils all around, 35" tires, Hemi, rockers are beefed up to be rock rails, It drives GREAT.
Can you do a post event build thread on it? I assume you guys have pictures, right? I would love to see how you guys did the rockers/Rock rails. What flares did you guys start with (they don't look like massaged factory Jeep flares)? Are they metal or fiberglass? Did you guys do the tool box, too? How did you attach the bumper (I don't see any bolts)? I notice it has 5 bolt hubs and D44; I assume they are not WT Cherokee axles. How did you get the additional 5" of wheel base in (I assume some in the front, some in the rear)? Did you have to move wheel well openings? What trans/Xfer case (all I have seen is "4speed auto")? SO many questions!!!
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:33 PM
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I am really curious if it sits on the original frame.

Its the original frame - but boxed and modified to accept the modern suspension.

No build thread on this one... I was a little involved, but not like the last time. Mine was more of engineer project, this one is a full boat build by the design office team. They have some great talent over there....

Flairs are totally custom due to the axles being moved. Dynatrac axles on this one... the rock rails? formed heavy metal to the rocker shape, thus strong.

WB = 2" front move.. look at front fender lower edge, and 3" rear move. intent was to be subtle and not change the overall look of the Jeep. And yes, the openings were tweaked for the large tires.
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EDIT: I LOVE original rigs.. but like updating stuff too. Most of my Jeeps "look" original, but have subtle mods for performance or reliability.
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Round 2 of 'Da Chief:
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NOPE. Brad, you be out of luck .. lol Next, you'll be wanting the paint code too ! Ha ha ha ...

No paint code needed. I just need the flares. Lol. Do they unbolt? I might have to make a trip to Moab with a tool bag if they do.
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No paint code needed. I just need the flares. Lol. Do they unbolt? I might have to make a trip to Moab with a tool bag if they do.
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