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Old 03-31-2009, 07:33 PM
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Newbie Exhaust Question.

What is this gate in my exhaust? It is only on the passenger side behind the headera nd directly above the starter. I doesn't seem to be connected to anything external that actuates it and I can't find it in the haynes or the service manual.







It seems to function properly although it sticks in both open and closed positions. (that is it does not return to open or closed on its own.)
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:39 PM
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It is the heat riser valve. When cold, it should close and force exhaust gas through the crossover in the intake manifold to warm the floor of the plenum to aid in cold engine driveability. Most are like yours and not functioning properly and have been welded open or have the butterfly removed so there is no restriction (like mine). It is operated by the bi-metallic spring that is behind the counter weight and manifold heat.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:14 PM
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Thanks I figured it was something along those lines. This truck has more cold weather equipment than anything I've ever owned.

I will wire it open for now, and remove that butterfly next time the exhaust is off.

Thanks again.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:44 AM
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when I try to drive my truck before the valve opens it sometimes backfires through the exhaust (i can hear it through the passenger floor board), I figure when I go theres quite a pressure buildup and it forces the valve open, so whats the best way to make it stay open, im running an electric choke now on the holley i bought and rebuilt (that was a lot easier than rebuilding the MC 4350) and dont need it to warm the old exhaust heated choke.
sorry for the long post.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:00 AM
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You can use a piece of coat hanger wire to hold it open until you get time to fix it right. Like Chevelleguy said, most remove the butterfly and shaft then weld the two holes shut.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:06 AM
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It may still be operating - there is a bimetal spring that's not too strong (cannot remember if the spring closes it or opens it - closes it when cold I think). Anyway, it should move freely enough that even when closed the engine is supposed to be able to blow it open.

Finding a good lubricant for it is tough, and actually getting it in there is tougher. I got a real high temp grease from McMaster-Carr years ago, and I try to blow in in with an airhose. I've also tried washing it in with brake cleaner. Mine moves pretty easily.

Some engines rely on exhaust pulses to move exaust through the crossover passage - maybe the firing order has something to do with that.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:08 AM
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You're probably OK without it most of the time in San Diego, but why not crawl under a couple of times to observe where it is when cold & hot. It may be working just fine. No point in disabling a working system that can do some good and doesn't hurt.

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