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  • AMC-J/20
    350 Buick
    • Dec 17, 2009
    • 1326

    #61
    I think I'm just going to stick with gas power . . .

    Less maintenance, plugging in no blending fuel ect and so along . . .

    Mike
    1953 REO M48.
    1962 GMC C3000.
    1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
    1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
    1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
    1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
    1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
    1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

    A M C Means Jeep to me

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    • gotmike
      327 Rambler
      • Aug 31, 2008
      • 503

      #62
      not trying to convince you one way or the other... but the only maintenance i have to deal with is changing the oil and the fuel filter... no spark plug... the air filter is cleanable... i may eventually need to put a new belt on it... but no spark plugs... no vacuum hoses, plug wires/cap/rotor... there are only two reasons it doesn't start... loss of battery power or no fuel... i plug it in just because it's easier on the engine... but when i lived in an apartment i was never able to plug it in... and it got to -40 one day... it still fired... though it took a while... i've never needed to blend my fuel... once i switched to a diesel i never looked back...
      J.E.E.P
      Just Everyone Elses Parts!
      '77 Cherokee Chief
      w/ '92 12v cummins,
      NV4500
      NP 205
      e]
      Dana 60 Front axle
      Dana 70-HD Rear axle
      Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
      trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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      • AMC-J/20
        350 Buick
        • Dec 17, 2009
        • 1326

        #63
        Alright alright . . . I'll do it ! . . . my wallet just went . . .

        Ok so i had intended this as collector ish Toy/Tow rig together right so, and rust free solid J/20 is what i want but its going to cost some money and take some time to find a whole truck . . .

        Try this on for sized once, I buy a 90'-93' Ram350HD/Ram3500HD Dually 4x4 Cummins diesel manual transmission the first gen square bodied one ? . . .

        If i gotta finance it i can, then all i do is swap Cab's the i put a J-10-30 gladiator ECT Pickup truck cab on it, rustfree cab cheaper then whole truck right ? plus increasing my options from 74'-76' J/20 to any J-truck 1963-1988 . . . I set the Jeep cab on the Dodge chassie, then replace the box with a nice diamond plate flat bed, unless the dodge already has a flat bed, then i swap on my Blessed 19.5's of which by the way duel rims are cheaper n more plentiful lots more whees to choose from n stealies can be had cheap too and shazzam, Quick spring upgrade and i have myself a J/50 4X4 Dually Diesel ! ?

        then its basically just a cab n clip swap toss on some wheels n tire's project complete !


        Mike
        Last edited by AMC-J/20; 12-22-2009, 04:09 PM.
        1953 REO M48.
        1962 GMC C3000.
        1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
        1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
        1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
        1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
        1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
        1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

        A M C Means Jeep to me

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        • gotmike
          327 Rambler
          • Aug 31, 2008
          • 503

          #64
          sounds like my dream truck... as long as it's got a brow...
          J.E.E.P
          Just Everyone Elses Parts!
          '77 Cherokee Chief
          w/ '92 12v cummins,
          NV4500
          NP 205
          e]
          Dana 60 Front axle
          Dana 70-HD Rear axle
          Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
          trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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          • AMC-J/20
            350 Buick
            • Dec 17, 2009
            • 1326

            #65
            What's this brow deal you are referring to ?

            EDIT:
            Sorry i seem to have taken over your thread heres my thread:
            I'm thinking i just may have to build this thing to get what i want how i want it. Start with a rust free manual transmission J/20 pickup truck, and build from there Engine: AMC401 4bbl from an AMX ( 330hp n 435tq ) Transmission: NV4500 Granny 1st - OD 5th. Transfer case: ? :confused: ? what ever mates up ? cost effectively



            Mike
            Last edited by AMC-J/20; 12-23-2009, 05:36 PM.
            1953 REO M48.
            1962 GMC C3000.
            1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
            1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
            1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
            1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
            1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
            1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

            A M C Means Jeep to me

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            • snoopy
              232 I6
              • Nov 11, 2004
              • 183

              #66
              [quote=AMC-J/20]What's this brow deal you are referring to ?

              The way god intended for Jeeps to be made.
              www.patriotguard.org/ because it does matter.

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              • snoopy
                232 I6
                • Nov 11, 2004
                • 183

                #67
                Looks like a couple of guys are doing 6BT swaps over on the M715zone. This one looks like the least headache to me. I've spent some time up in the dana frame plant in Ky, the metal in newer frames is mucho better. They're designed with computers that consider torsional dynamics and stuff.
                www.patriotguard.org/ because it does matter.

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                • snoopy
                  232 I6
                  • Nov 11, 2004
                  • 183

                  #68
                  Hope this adds and answers some questions. http://www.m715zone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11231
                  www.patriotguard.org/ because it does matter.

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                  • gotmike
                    327 Rambler
                    • Aug 31, 2008
                    • 503

                    #69
                    got some new pics... just kindof poser shots... but they were some of the only pics we took of the entire day...



                    Last edited by gotmike; 01-31-2010, 06:31 PM.
                    J.E.E.P
                    Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                    '77 Cherokee Chief
                    w/ '92 12v cummins,
                    NV4500
                    NP 205
                    e]
                    Dana 60 Front axle
                    Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                    Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                    trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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                    • gotmike
                      327 Rambler
                      • Aug 31, 2008
                      • 503

                      #70
                      got some work done on the chero today... installed a trailer plug finally
                      i think this setup could even work with a window in the back...

                      seems nice and out of the way... no chance of tearing it up on the trails


                      there were some slot's built in just past where the spring rods attach that when bored out a bit allow the wire through rather nicely... a grommet to keep from cutting the wire at all and some grease to ease assembly


                      and while i was down there i cleaned up all my wires... put the taillight wires in the box along with the trailer plug wires so that i can modify things easily...


                      bolted the box to the frame and it's tucked up out of the way quite nicely i figure on building a gaurd for it to keep from rocks busting the box but all in all it was a nice install
                      J.E.E.P
                      Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                      '77 Cherokee Chief
                      w/ '92 12v cummins,
                      NV4500
                      NP 205
                      e]
                      Dana 60 Front axle
                      Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                      Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                      trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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                      • gotmike
                        327 Rambler
                        • Aug 31, 2008
                        • 503

                        #71
                        backup lights mounted to the roof rack





                        put on some speaker grilles


                        and mounted my battery switch in the old speaker bracket



                        sorry for the dark pic's
                        here's the switch all alone


                        now i just need to finish wiring in the backup lights... they will be hooked to the reverse lights circuit and will also be switchable... for those dark nights when i'm working on something behind the rig...
                        Last edited by gotmike; 06-01-2010, 08:09 PM.
                        J.E.E.P
                        Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                        '77 Cherokee Chief
                        w/ '92 12v cummins,
                        NV4500
                        NP 205
                        e]
                        Dana 60 Front axle
                        Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                        Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                        trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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                        • seamus
                          327 Rambler
                          • Oct 08, 2003
                          • 593

                          #72
                          Originally posted by AMC-J/20
                          Well I think its within my skill level, just not so sure its within my income bracket.

                          Buying a whole truck with a usable chassie is $4,000-$6,000.

                          Good solid J20 $3,000-$5,000 so I'm told, From what I've seen there $6,000-$8,000.

                          So I'd have to buy a $5,000 truck and $7,000 truck and cut them up n weld them together...

                          Seem a bit steep for my wallet, thanks for the heads up at least I know it can be done.

                          Don't sound like its for me tho...





                          Mike

                          You are forgetting one thing, selling the parts you don't need. I bought my 90 Dodge 3500 for 1000.00 (slight front end impact) Sold the box-liner and doors as well as a few other parts and now I'm into the dodge for 400.00.

                          I bought the cherokee for 1400.00 reasonable body, good drive train. Sold the engine for 250, tranny for 200, dana 44 front for 300, amc 20 rear for 100. and 100 fro the frame. When it was all said and done I was into the whole project for for 600.00
                          1980 Cherokee WT with Cummins 6BT

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                          • gotmike
                            327 Rambler
                            • Aug 31, 2008
                            • 503

                            #73
                            and nothing beats being able to tow without looking back... or wondering if i can make that hill...
                            J.E.E.P
                            Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                            '77 Cherokee Chief
                            w/ '92 12v cummins,
                            NV4500
                            NP 205
                            e]
                            Dana 60 Front axle
                            Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                            Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                            trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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                            • FSJeeper
                              King of Unfinished Projects
                              • May 20, 2000
                              • 5270

                              #74
                              I know you lost your PICS of the swap, but can you remember any interesting details about how much difference there was between the frames and how did you do the body mounts?
                              In Process: 91 Wagoneer, D61/71 axles with 3.07 gearing, NV4500, NP205. Cummins 6BT.

                              Back burner project: Crew cab M715, Cummins/Allison/Rockwell Tcase/Dana 61/Dana 71.

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                              • Mikel
                                • Aug 09, 2000
                                • 6330

                                #75
                                How does it tow with that wheelbase and the lift? Trailer brakes?


                                Originally posted by gotmike
                                and nothing beats being able to tow without looking back... or wondering if i can make that hill...
                                1969 M715 6x6
                                1963 J300 Swivel frame

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