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Old 10-14-2020, 12:06 PM
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Rob's 1988 Baltic Blue & Tan Grand Wagoneer Restoration

Background:

I bought the old girl in mid-November of 2019 as a garage project, mostly to keep myself busy over the last winter, and as it turned out, during the ridiculous China virus lockdown scare.

I found it on FB Marketplace, listed by an older woman and her son thru her deceased husband's account. She wanted $2k, but based on pics and videos I told her I'd drive out from Boise with a trailer to her place in Vancouver, WA to inspect it and go from there.

What I saw in person was much worse than I thought I'd find, as it had a hard life, didn't run, and had a lot of interior floor pan rust, non-functioning electrics, and a lot of missing interior bits. We agreed on $1,200, poured gas down the carb, and gunned it onto the trailer before it died.

Apparently it started life in Berkeley, CA, then moved to Arkansas at some point, where I figure it was used as a hunting rig or something.

I'm still plugging away between work, health issues, and just plain old parts scrounging. Anyway, I'll post occasional pics as I continue piecing things together. Enjoy!
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:10 PM
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10-4 we look forward to the build.
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:14 PM
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Here she is on the trailer.
Note the badly biffed, and previously replaced, left front fender, the damaged driver side of the grill, and the dented front bumper.
They graciously swapped out the wheels I didn't like and fitted the older GW wheels (with dry-rotted tires).
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:15 PM
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10-4 we look forward to the build.
dave in NC

Thanks, Dave. All the parts you sent me will be in these pics!

Here's a good look at my starting point. Incorrect model-year door panels, destroyed seat upholstery, wrong driver side seat, beat up dash, missing gear shift knob, door lock knobs, missing tailgate motor, mold, etc:


Skulls for gear shifter and door locks. Wrong driver seat (no headrest), broken center arm rest, non-functional dash lights, etc.


No right rear window motor. Window was held 'mostly up' by a piece of wood in the door, which allowed a lot of moisture in over however long it was like that.


Rear tailgate glass was held up by a strap, as the motor didn't exist. Tailgate had also been hit so rear bumper is slightly bent, but tailgate sheet metal was dented and bottom seam had popped. Scored a good assembly from a part-out a month after I bought the waggy.
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:35 PM
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Taking stock of everything once I got it into the garage. Had a ton of surface rust inside, mold, couple of rust-thru pinholes, and just general corrosion on everything. Both front and rear headliners were missing, figured they succumbed to the elements years ago.

Figured it best to start at the top where water usually gets in, so removed the roof rack, rails, and optional ASC sunroof.


The optional sunroof. Pain to remove, found some broken bits, but want to keep it.


Some surface corrosion, but otherwise in good shape.
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:40 PM
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Cargo area had no carpet, no cargo rails, or fiberboard rib underlay, and a ton of screw holes that definitely were not from the factory cargo rails. Best guess is someone made some homemade tie-down points.


Look, a clean spot!


Good look at all the surface rust:
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Old 10-14-2020, 12:45 PM
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Got tired of constantly pumping up the dry-rotted tires, so scored some used ones on FB for $150. Gave the seller his rims back after removing the good tires from them.


Good tires on the left, old crud on the right still mounted:


Had my wheels and center caps powder coated in semi-gloss black for $210. Too much surface corrosion to want to attempt a repaint, plus this looks meaner:


Finished product after mounting the tires:
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Old 10-14-2020, 02:17 PM
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A couple more examples of how beat up the old girl was. Driver door panel was water corroded and eaten away at front bottom:


Right rear door panel (with the missing window motor) is wrong and horribly molded.


Most of the cargo area stuff was missing. Scored most of it from ebay, and bought new full ACC carpet kit.
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Old 10-14-2020, 02:24 PM
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it sure is fun to dig into a new project,...

taking all the worn stuff out,...

discovering this and that,.....

now your mind will be constantly thinking of

what you want to do next, buy next,...etc....

Man, those RIMS LOOK GREAT,.....sounds like a deal for the powder coating.

floor looks solid,.....

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Old 10-14-2020, 03:49 PM
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it sure is fun to dig into a new project,...

taking all the worn stuff out,...

discovering this and that,.....

now your mind will be constantly thinking of

what you want to do next, buy next,...etc....

Man, those RIMS LOOK GREAT,.....sounds like a deal for the powder coating.

floor looks solid,.....

dave in NC

No doubt, Dave, always fun to figure out the next steps. 10% military discount for the wheels and center caps. I'll use them again if I have anything else to coat.

Floors had some cratering, but only a couple pinholes thru the metal that needed sanded and welded up. I'll include some pics of the work done there later.
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Old 10-14-2020, 04:15 PM
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Here's the start of a long and slow process to completely strip the paint and rust off the floors:


Another angle:


Still more:
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:09 PM
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glad the old wagoneer is getting attention,...

it was needing some TLC,....

like rescuing an abandoned dog...

I love doing the floors, its one thing I can do,....

you may have said ,.. but what coating are you planning to use on the floor ?


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Old 10-15-2020, 08:58 AM
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glad the old wagoneer is getting attention,...

it was needing some TLC,....

like rescuing an abandoned dog...

I love doing the floors, its one thing I can do,....

you may have said ,.. but what coating are you planning to use on the floor ?

dave in NC

I used 2 types of POR-15 after cleaning and using their metal prep. The passenger area of the floor pan got 1 pint of the silver version with the metal filler that settles into the craters, then I followed up with a quart of the semi-gloss black, which I also used in the rust-free cargo area. I was VERY impressed with this stuff. Filled in the craters nicely and looks like it will last longer than the rest of the Jeep.

Buddy of mine welded in the million different holes in the cargo area, then I sanded and did the POR-15:


Floor welds sanded down, metal prepped, and first coat of black POR-15:


Silver coating in front, where the rust did a crater number on the pan:


The finished product looks great!
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:26 AM
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Had to pound out some small dents and deformations in the rear quarters, then began the process of tidying up:



I overdosed on the Kilmat, but it's good stuff and really cuts down on the noise.
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:37 AM
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The factory adhesive on the roof support rails had failed so I removed them and began the long process of sanding down the rust and removing the factory adhesive.





I used 3M 08115 Panel Adhesive and Manual Cartridge Applicator 08571 from Amazon to get the rails reattached:


Used boards to wedge the rails back up after using the bolt holes to line them up:


Used a space heater and blankets to heat the adhesive to over 100* to set it completely so the rails don't break loose again:
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:59 AM
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Inside roof now primered for rust protection:


Rolled some more Kilmat onto the roof to keep things insulated and quiet:


Did some detail work and painted the rear speaker frames:
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Old 10-15-2020, 01:31 PM
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Great progress .. keep at it. All the small steps add up over time.

Cool project.
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WOW
love POR-15

a NICE, NEAT PRECISE job on everything

love the photos

you are making a chunk of coal into a diamond.

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hey man

while you have been in the interior working

have you noticed the
threaded holes further back in roof

near where the back of the back seat would be
but up in roof cavity,....

I used those holes to install 3rd row belts
although they will prob never be used in my lifetime....

I think I remember reading the threaded holes were for a tire carrier ?
can't remember....
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:30 PM
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Used new grommet and screw sets to reinstall the roof rack and slats, and followed up with a slathering of flexible gasket maker for water tight integrity:


Roof rack grommets nicely slopped to avoid water intrusion.
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