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02-17-2009, 09:10 AM
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No luck lift
My luck a guy gives me some waggy springs, I order AAL's go to install but the springs are so pitted with rust between the leaves I'm afraid to use em! Hell the mainleaf is eat up 1/4 way thru and has two waves of bendyness I never noticed so I have some worthless AAL's now.
I need a two or 3 inch lift spring for the front. Whts my options for buying individually and not a kit?
Don't say rancho 44044. Been there, bent and broke those!
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02-17-2009, 10:08 AM
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Post in the wanted section... somebody up close to you has some springs they'll let go for free or for cheap... then you can use the AALs you bought... if you were close to me I'd let you have a set for not much...
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02-17-2009, 10:57 AM
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What about running some chevy lift springs? I think if you divide what the advertised lift amount for a chevy then that is what it will lift your FSJ (6" spring / 2 = 3" of lift).
The problem is it will also move your axle forward ~1" or so from the stock location, but that also may not be a problem.
You may be able to pick some of those up for cheap, just a thought.
Also I think you can buy new individual springs, stock or lifted, from BJs if you want to go that route as well.
Rankin
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02-17-2009, 11:31 AM
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Rough Country 8004's?
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02-17-2009, 12:54 PM
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I would give you the ones I have but they're for the rear  Seriously, where did you bend the 44044s?
edit: also you could look at a junkyard or better yet find someone that can re-arch springs. they should be able to make you a pack to your specs for a reasonable price. If you want bling call Alcan. If you want middle of the road get Skyjacker or the 44044s. I had to weld a piece of tube behind the springs so the hanger wouldn't kick back and bend the main leaf.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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02-17-2009, 02:08 PM
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I think Hell Creek has stock springs too...
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02-17-2009, 02:28 PM
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I think its time you put a se of alcan's under there. Military wrapped springs...nuff said. I wouldnt worry about bending those. Prolly cost you $400 or so but will be custom made for your truck
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02-17-2009, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecherokee
I would give you the ones I have but they're for the rear  Seriously, where did you bend the 44044s?
I bent them right infront of the rear hanger and broke the drivers side in the same place. Did it in harlan on lower ****ation in the rain. I don't recommend that trail when wet
edit: also you could look at a junkyard or better yet find someone that can re-arch springs. they should be able to make you a pack to your specs for a reasonable price. If you want bling call Alcan. If you want middle of the road get Skyjacker or the 44044s. I had to weld a piece of tube behind the springs so the hanger wouldn't kick back and bend the main leaf.
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Alcan would be my "if I had the money" choice.
F*uck it I'm gonna run em. Imtired of seeing my junk on jackstands! Ill post up a wanted add and just thrash my junk in the mean time.
DPG in march Nick?
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02-17-2009, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jepj2000
What about running some chevy lift springs? I think if you divide what the advertised lift amount for a chevy then that is what it will lift your FSJ (6" spring / 2 = 3" of lift).
The problem is it will also move your axle forward ~1" or so from the stock location, but that also may not be a problem.
You may be able to pick some of those up for cheap, just a thought.
Also I think you can buy new individual springs, stock or lifted, from BJs if you want to go that route as well.
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Wait wait wait...
WHAT!?
Thats EXACTLY what I want.. 3in of lift and one inch forward axle relocation.... More details please! Does this work for the rear or just the front? How the ride quality?
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02-17-2009, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jepj2000
What about running some chevy lift springs? I think if you divide what the advertised lift amount for a chevy then that is what it will lift your FSJ (6" spring / 2 = 3" of lift).
The problem is it will also move your axle forward ~1" or so from the stock location, but that also may not be a problem.
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You are right about the 6" Chevy springs being about 3" lift, but it doesn't work the way you said. Just minus ~ 3" off of whatever lift spring you have.
4" Chevy = ~1" Jeep
6" Chevy = ~3" Jeep
8" Chevy = ~5" Jeep
And so on....
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02-17-2009, 05:24 PM
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Quote:
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Wait wait wait...
WHAT!?
Thats EXACTLY what I want.. 3in of lift and one inch forward axle relocation.... More details please! Does this work for the rear or just the front? How the ride quality?
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I have had good luck with Tuff Country EZ-Ride 6" Chevy springs in the front. They ride decent (for a lift spring) and flex like crazy.
I don't know about the rears though..... never done that.
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02-17-2009, 05:36 PM
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But it provides 3 in of lift or there about?
I am hoping to avoid steering issues and I am GUESSING I will be OK with 3in (I have heard all the debates and people that got death wobble when they lifted it a half inch and those who lifted it 2 feet and had no problems... I am just willing to take a chance on 3in and see what happens)
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02-18-2009, 08:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4fEvEr
Alcan would be my "if I had the money" choice.
F*uck it I'm gonna run em. Imtired of seeing my junk on jackstands! Ill post up a wanted add and just thrash my junk in the mean time.
DPG in march Nick?
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I hate to say it but that was my first thought. Just run them and see. In the meantime you can be on the search for others.
DPG? Haven't been there yet. I need to get out there and check it out. March may be do-able. Depends on the funds. I've got to save enough for the Tellico trip in April.
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Originally Posted by Topgun2mo
I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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Originally Posted by johnny019
I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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