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03-06-2013, 10:51 AM
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63 j truck powersteering pic
Could any one snap a few pic of the power steering setup on there j truck I have all the parts but need to know the best way to fit it all in there. Thanks
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03-06-2013, 12:21 PM
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Are you talking about the power steering that was an option in '63 or are you fitting a newer Saginaw box?
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03-06-2013, 01:10 PM
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The option I got a box from a junk yard and a bracket from a waggy. was wondering what the set up would look like,
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03-06-2013, 01:37 PM
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Is your truck basically stock now?
When I converted my '63 to Saginaw style steering, I had cut the front crossmember from a '69 J-truck that had the mounts for the Saginaw box and welded it into my '63 frame after removing the original front crossmember.
The steering column is also different - the original '63 connected directly to the Ross box and the later Saginaw style column is shorter and uses steering shaft between the column and box.
I used a box from a '78 J-20, a column from a late '60's/early '70's Wagoneer and the steering shaft from the '78 J-20. It all bolted together.
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03-06-2013, 02:30 PM
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Well I have a 327 chevy stuffed in her and I think if I redo the motor mount I can get the box mounted and make a shaft from my original sreering colum. I just wondering if the pitman arm had to be level or can I get away with a slight angle
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03-06-2013, 03:21 PM
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Don't know if it helps, here is a sketch found in a 64 service manual

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03-06-2013, 05:38 PM
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if your steering currently looks like that diagram..you have to do what Tonka did to use a later saginaw.
I didn't have to switch columns, just swapped the lower steering shaft.
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03-06-2013, 05:39 PM
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That must be the factory option?
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03-06-2013, 07:34 PM
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Yep, that diagram is what was available in the early J-trucks and Waggys for power steering. My '63 panel has that set up.
It sounds like you've got a good idea of how to make what you have work. I'm not sure on your question about the angle of the steering box/pitman arm. Too much of an angle could lead to binding issues under full lock/full stuff situations. Hard to say without seeing it!
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03-06-2013, 08:11 PM
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I think if I put the box straight and redo the motor mount I can make it work thanks for the help!!!!
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03-06-2013, 08:14 PM
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I got the Willys....
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Why not just scrounge up the correct power steering setup?
I've got it all sitting in my tent/shed/thing waiting to get rebuilt and installed in my 63 someday.
Plus no one wants this stuff and it's dirt cheap.
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03-07-2013, 02:20 PM
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LOL want to sell it!!!!
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03-07-2013, 02:51 PM
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I have every thing but the original steering box and the slave cylinder I have all the linkage.
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03-09-2013, 05:04 AM
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I got the Willys....
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Steering box should be the same, early ones had different ratios but 64/65 had the same for both power and non power boxes.
Any will work with power assist.
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03-09-2013, 11:37 AM
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IFS or solid axle?
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03-09-2013, 11:59 AM
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early impala had a similar system. you may find new parts from there.
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