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Old 08-17-2017, 07:46 PM
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Pulled back from the brink of extinction

Hi from the deepest deep deep south - South Island of New Zealand.

Firstly, I give a big thank you to the moderator(s) who kindly let this most grateful Kiwi into your world - the domain of the IFSJA!!


Three J20 trucks waiting to go to their new home.


1981 Ex Ambulance with 5.1 petrol in-line 6

The last time I checked, I was still a sane and level minded person. Lately my actions have brought that notion into question because I have brought not one, not two, but three Jeep J20 trucks, with the intention to bring them all back from the brink of extinction.

I have been snooping around your association website and I am amazed at all the knowledge you guys and gals have posted so freely. It has let me do some really useful research and helped me to make an informed decision about whether or not I had to get just one truck, or all three trucks - well two and a half really as you'll see from the images I will try to post!


1982 J20 ex. farm truck. 5.1 petrol in-line 6.

I am stoked this site exists, as there is very little info freely available here, except for the knowledge of those in the know about J20 trucks. Getting to know these people is the next task I am working on right now.

One truck is sitting in a garage and I am collecting the other two this weekend. Then I can have a good look to see what I am going to be needing to get them all back on the road.

I will be a regular visitor to your site ( - now mine too!! Yay!!) and I am sure I will be posting some questions to you all as I get on with restoring the 1981, and 1982 models of Jeep - and adding more images as time goes on. Just let me know where the best place to post images is, and I have always got my ears on for your advice and constructive criticism.

Any fellow Kiwis with a J20 - get in touch!

Cheers.

1982 J20. ex. farm wagon or spray truck (I think.)

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Old 08-19-2017, 08:09 AM
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Welcome! That is quite the undertaking! I see you folks kept the brow into the early 80's.. 1980 was the last of the brow here in the US.
Pretty cool to find 3 of the same model rig together. I hope you can get 1-2 solid rigs out of group.
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:48 AM
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hello and welcome to the site....

i do not know a-lot but the other guys do !!!

good luck with your projects.

dave in NC ..........U.S.A.
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:08 PM
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Welcome , amazing !
I am also surprised by the brows, were they built in Toledo ? Australia ? or built in NZ from CKD (kit) ? Did you get any VINs ?
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Old 08-21-2017, 12:00 PM
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I KNOW I have seen some Kiwis on here. I can't remember who off the top of my head but I know I have seen at least one.

Welcome to our site!

My only advice right now: Focus on one rig at a time. If you try to get more than one rig going at once, you may get bit overwhelmed. Plus you were learn so much from each one that they will get better and better. Also, have a clear plan for each rig. Things like "I want it to get decent MPG, be daily driver reliable, and want to do it for XXX dollars." Its super easy to get really wrapped up in small details that don't matter and the rig ends up costing 3 times as much as you expected/lingers forever causing you to lose interest.

We LOVE pics so keep 'em coming!
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Old 08-25-2017, 03:50 PM
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Thank you all for your encouragement and advice
Indeed, I intend to get one up and running at a time, and I hope I can get two decent trucks out of the three on the road. It will be a bonus if I could get the third restored. I was toying with engine swaps or replacements, but I figure that by the time I spend money and time on the conversion, I would probably get a lot of mileage out of the petrol six's before I came close to covering the cost of conversion and the hassles involved - f they are runners that is?? I need to have a go a starting them yet. I will find out more over the coming months about the brow issue - I have never seen any over here with no brow...
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Old 08-25-2017, 03:54 PM
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I'll get VIN numbers for you at some point if you like - do you have a numbers book to see if you can find them from the factory production run
I am led to believe that most J20's were destined for Australian market and that NZ got them of the back of that deal. I shall try to confirm that though, as it is all hear-say and Chinese whispers so far.
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Old 08-28-2017, 05:50 AM
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You have this forum link in order to decode the VIN of a rig built in Toledo
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/figures/index.html
I don't have a link for an Australian jeep VIN, but i can decode almost all the digits
Decoding should help for the brows
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Old 09-30-2017, 03:54 PM
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You have this forum link in order to decode the VIN of a rig built in Toledo
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/figures/index.html
I don't have a link for an Australian jeep VIN, but i can decode almost all the digits
Decoding should help for the brows
Hi Mud89.

I got 2x VIN plates, but I suspect they are pure NZ plates...
Do they make any sense to you?

JOM 46 YC and number beneath it 2433

JOM 46 YC and number beneath it 2441

No plate on the third wagon but I might find it in the boxes of parts that came with the three trucks.

Cheers.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:01 AM
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Welcome! "Deep south", indeed. The grits must be gooder'n hell that far down.

I think you made the right choice buying all three, as long as it doesn't impact your marital bliss, living arrangements, etc. Restoring all three is pretty ambitious, but it is a huge advantage to have an extra vehicle to rob parts from, compare assemblies, and so on.

You mention that the ambulance and farm truck have a "5.1 petrol in-line 6". By 5.1, do you mean liters? I'm not aware of any inline sixes around that size, but there's a lot I don't know about southern hemisphere vehicles. Our Jeep/AMC six was a 258, which is 4.2 liters. What/whose engines are in your trucks?
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:00 AM
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Hi Mud89.

I got 2x VIN plates, but I suspect they are pure NZ plates...
Do they make any sense to you?

JOM 46 YC and number beneath it 2433

JOM 46 YC and number beneath it 2441

Cheers.

Thanks for info

The seven first digits are identical to a US VIN, but the following four digits are different, that's the serial number and if it was a US VIN , the serial number should have six digits instead of four.

"J0M46YC" means
1980 model year
4 speed manual transmission
J20
8400 lbs GVW
258ci (4.2L) 6 inline engine

serial number should be 002441, 002433 instead of 2441, 2433 if it was a US VIN.
2441 and 2433 are probably NZ serial numbers

I guess that they were assembled in NZ from '80 kits or CKD, the year 80 is coherent with the grilles

It would be interesting if you find time to take a pic of a plate
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:25 PM
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Welcome!
First of all, you need to send a round trip air line ticket to me so that I can come down and inspect the trucks for you.
I won't offer any help or advice or anything, I just want to go and look!
Please keep the photos coming Neat stuff!
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:47 PM
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OK Ill post pic of the VIN plates in the next few days Mud 89
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:57 PM
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Welcome!
First of all, you need to send a round trip air line ticket to me so that I can come down and inspect the trucks for you.
I won't offer any help or advice or anything, I just want to go and look!
Please keep the photos coming Neat stuff!
... I dunno about the airline tickets SC/397?
I reckon it might be quicker to send my son over to meet you on the Calif. coast somewhere.
He flies commercial helicopters just 'cause he wants to.
Do you got good access to cheap Avgas on all the Pacific Islands en route? Best pack lightly so you can bring over all the parts that I will need for the restorations.
Can I suggest that as a means of barter payment for the service?

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Old 10-12-2017, 11:03 PM
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Welcome! "Deep south", indeed. The grits must be gooder'n hell that far down.

I think you made the right choice buying all three, as long as it doesn't impact your marital bliss, living arrangements, etc. Restoring all three is pretty ambitious, but it is a huge advantage to have an extra vehicle to rob parts from, compare assemblies, and so on.

You mention that the ambulance and farm truck have a "5.1 petrol in-line 6". By 5.1, do you mean liters? I'm not aware of any inline sixes around that size, but there's a lot I don't know about southern hemisphere vehicles. Our Jeep/AMC six was a 258, which is 4.2 liters. What/whose engines are in your trucks?
Hi DarkMonohue. I think that's what the previous owner thought they were.
I guess that I should find out for sure before spreading the word about what I hear...
Ill update and confirm all that for you.
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