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Old 03-24-2012, 07:04 PM
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What's the plans for the down pipe? I remember you saying u had a couple options. You mind sharing them. I'm curious.

lobie, check a couple posts down for an answer.

Today I mocked up the space I need for the wiper motor. I'll still need some room to run the air ducting, but here's some pics of how much room is under the dash to work with everything. The logical order is to plumb in the heater and ducts, then the wipers, and then run the wiring in the space that's left. So, I'm now on hold for that until the heater and wipers come in.






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Old 03-24-2012, 07:41 PM
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After referring to a bunch of pictures, including these two, and taking a bunch of measurements today, I've decided to mount my batteries inboard of the hood hinges longways facing forward. (2) Deka 727MF's weigh 100lbs and I'd rather have that weight behind the axle instead of in front of it. Especially since the truck may have a HD bumper and winch in its future. I'm going to have to notch the inboard backside of the inner wheelwells a little, but tire clearance won't be a problem at all. Between the spring under frame conversion and extra 1/2 inch of body clearance I've gained 6 1/4 inches of lift. Actually, more like 3 1/4 inches of tire clearance since I'll be running 35" tires.




By moving the heater under the dash I've freed up the pas side. The battery will go where the heater motor use to be and the downpipe will go where the heater core use to be. I'll just make sure there's a good heat barrier between them. I pulled out my hydroboost and some pictures of hydroboost installs and made sure there's room on the drivers side. The wire harness will most likely come through the firewall in the old wiper motor hole and get routed appropriately. Nothing else comes through the firewall where the battery is going to sit.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:51 PM
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You have no idea how jealous I am right now. I wish I had the time and place to do this kind of restoration on my J10.

Great work, and I cannot wait to see more.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:55 PM
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Wow!! Ive been reading your thread from the beginning, every new update blows my mind at how cool this thing is going to turn out! Keep up the good work, Im looking forward to the wiring, as im debating whether to rewire mine from scratch or use the donors...Good luck!
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:02 PM
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OK lobie now for your answer.

The old turbo is going bye bye. It's shaft was really loose, so it was going to need a rebuild anyways. For another $600 I could install a new BD Super B turbo, so it's been ordered. It comes with a 4" downpipe which matches the rest of the exhaust I already have. As for making room for the downpipe,......

After considering everything I went with what George, at Turbo Technologies, suggested. He said this fix would not affect my spool up in the least and I trust and respect his advice 100% when it comes to anything turbo.

I'll use these stainless mandrel bent pieces and flanges to make an S pipe between the manifold and turbo that moves the turbo forward the distance I need. I'm amazed at the amount of flexibility you get for placement out of just (2) 90 degree bends. George told me how to fabricate everything correctly, then I'll take them to Neil for welding. There's a place about 30 miles away that does ceramic coating, so I may even get that done.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:16 PM
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You have no idea how jealous I am right now. I wish I had the time and place to do this kind of restoration on my J10.

Great work, and I cannot wait to see more.
Thank you Stuka. Believe me, never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I'd get a chance to do something like this. All the planets lined up in a Rose colored universe for me.

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Wow!! Ive been reading your thread from the beginning, every new update blows my mind at how cool this thing is going to turn out! Keep up the good work, Im looking forward to the wiring, as im debating whether to rewire mine from scratch or use the donors...Good luck!
Definitely do a rewire!!! It's really not that expensive or hard if you plan it out good. I didn't even hesitate. The VERY FIRST TIME I saw the wiring in this truck I knew I was doing it.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:52 AM
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I second the wiring advice. You'll be glad in a number of ways, including the peace of mind in just knowing how it all works.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:23 AM
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I'm almost positive this is how I'm going to lay out the instruments. There's a few warning lights, etc., not drawn in, but they'll go in the open areas on the panel. I have (2) old instrument faces to work with, so I may cut the warning lights out of one set, flip them over, and put them between the two on the face I'm going to use. This would give four warning lights. The gear indicator lights could go in the old odometer window area. I'm still debating how I'll mount the five gauges on the dash, but I have a couple ideas.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:59 PM
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:39 PM
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That's a neat looking dash layout.
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Old 03-25-2012, 09:07 PM
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Thank you Stuka. Believe me, never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I'd get a chance to do something like this. All the planets lined up in a Rose colored universe for me.

Definitely do a rewire!!! It's really not that expensive or hard if you plan it out good. I didn't even hesitate. The VERY FIRST TIME I saw the wiring in this truck I knew I was doing it.

I agree, there is nothing better than knowing how something is put together on your own rig, takes out that bit of wonder, hhhhhmmm are those 50 year old wires grounding out.....
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:45 AM
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..... hhhhhmmm are those 50 year old wires grounding out.....

Yep, that and just having all the fuses in one location make it worth the effort.
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:44 AM
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Yep, that and just having all the fuses in one location make it worth the effort.

Oh I completely agree with you guys, we put new painless systems in everything; I've already ripped the original wiring out of the kaiser. Sorry I wasn't being clear I was contemplating using my donors (96 ram) wiring to save a few hundred dollars and maybe some headaches (maybe cause some too)
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Oh I completely agree with you guys, we put new painless systems in everything; I've already ripped the original wiring out of the kaiser. Sorry I wasn't being clear I was contemplating using my donors (96 ram) wiring to save a few hundred dollars and maybe some headaches (maybe cause some too)

I know what you mean, my trucks setup from the PO had every wire coming from the ignition with 1 or 2 in-line fuses all taped together and pulled up into the dash with twine...... I delt with that for 2 summers, not worth the headache.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:32 AM
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Got kind of lucky. I finally remembered to check and see if the 4,000RPM tachometer I got for the diesel came with the sensor, like the original 7,000RPM tach I bought. Nope, no joy. I headed over to Tacoma Speedometer to order one like lobie used in his build.

I've always known Mark is sharp, but he must have a mind like a steel trap, also. He's like, "Wait a minute I thought yours had a factory sensor on it?" This came from remembering a picture he saw 6 or 7 months ago. Out came my camera, rifle through 800 pictures, sure enough there's a tach sensor off my dampener. Mark even knew it's a two pulse Isspro sensor made for OEM applications. It sure makes life easier to be surrounded by people who know their stuff.

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Old 03-27-2012, 08:14 AM
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COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC TIDBIT OF INFO

I just got asked this in another thread, so I thought I'd post my answer here, also.
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Is your avatar jeep related??? I can't tell what it is.
Only Jeep related in relation to my FSJ build. That's why I chose it.

The picture was originally on a box for some sunglasses I bought. Can't remember the brand. I thought it was cool so I scanned it into my computer.

It's an atom bomb mushroom cloud coming out of the top of a guys head. Which perfectly represents how I've felt at times while fabricating my truck.

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Old 03-27-2012, 11:09 AM
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Great idea on the turbo! I was thinking of doing the same thing on my Waggy when I get that point. I am eager to see how yours turns out. With building my rig so I can take the family in it, I know I am going to need to keep the heater and AC. Take good pictures of that turbo setup please for the rest of us.
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:49 AM
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Rough fabrication of the dash mounted Gauge housing

Woo Hoo! The Danhard underdash heater came yesterday afternoon. More on that soon.

While I was waiting on the heater I did the rough fabrication on the gauge housing that will sit on top of the dashboard. I'll finish it once I have the steering wheel and seat positions finalized, so that I can position it to see all the gauges over the steering wheel.

Started out with a 2 1/2" mandrel bent exhaust piece I had and a sheet of sheetmetal of the same thickness. Cut the bend flush with one of the inside sides.


Then, cut it down the middle.


Next, clamp the sheetmeatal onto the 4" exhaust and bend it around 90 degrees


Use a cutoff wheel and cut several slits into the inside radius and work the metal so it flattens out


Starting at the bent ends, tack the sheetmetal between mandrel bent pieces, working really slowly to keep heat to almost nothing. Rarely over what hurts to touch





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Old 03-28-2012, 11:53 AM
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Eventually you get to this point.


And end up with this. I'll finish it while working on the dashboard.




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