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  • FSJ-Earl
    304 AMC
    • May 02, 2003
    • 1574

    #16
    You get what you pay for, a 50.00 distributor cannot be all that great. Although even the better gears can shred. I shredded my dist gear and cam gear several month ago. The repair is not hard, but it is labor intensive. The garage wanterd almost 800.00 for it, Zack and I did mine in about 8 hours. Not too hard, just time consuming.
    FSJ-Earl
    2002 F350 Diesel - tow rig / family hauler
    2008 4 door JK Rubicon - Wife's Daily Driver
    1989 GW - the one that started it all
    1983 - J15 - J10 body + J20 running gear = J15 Trail rig

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    • Joe Guilbeau
      304 AMC
      • Apr 17, 2002
      • 2137

      #17
      Geeze, that is harsh...

      Here is something from archives...


      Others can chime in here to see if this applies to your vehicle, it looks to be good info.
      Joe Guilbeau<br />1983 Cherokee Laredo WT (SJ-17), 360/229/727/D44/D60 4.10 Gearing, 8-lug hubs, Edelbrock Performer w/EGR Intake, Mallory Unilite Series 47 Photo-Optic Infrared Trigger Vacuum Distributor, Mallory Surge Protector, Mallory Promaster Coil, Holley Pro-Jection TBI 502-Analog, FlowKooler High Output Water Pump, Staggered 4-Core Custom Industrial Radiator, HD Fan Clutch, Dual Electric Fans, CS130 Delco 105-Amp Alternator, Oil Bypass Mods at Rear of Block and Distributor Oiling, Superlift 4\" Suspension, Rancho RS5000\'s, Hi-Tech 31\" Re-Treads, Aero 33 Gal Tank w/Skid Plate, Custom Rear \"Longhorn\" Bumper

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      • Jeep madness
        232 I6
        • Jul 27, 2010
        • 28

        #18
        I feel your pain!!!

        Originally posted by Thumper168
        I installed a new distributer yesterday, I made it 10 miles down the road and the jeeps shuts off, after some looking the gear on the bottom of the distributer is fubared, its been shaved down and allowed it to jump timing. I used the gear off the original distributer and I thought all was ok, any idea what could have caused this?, how to fix this? and is the cam shaft gear going to look fubared as well? Where to get the correct gear now that this one is gone?

        I just "up graded" to a HEI distributor. I had the same thing happen. The dizzy had a gear on it and I just dropped it in. 10 miles later, a roll back is bring me back to the house. It sucks to cause I had the truck apart for the last 5 weeks swapping it a Dana 60 rear with disc brakes and now its stuck under the car port again. The motor has about 8000 miles on it so its not bad greasy and hopefully no stuck bolts. Oh mine happened yesterday.

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        • Thumper168
          258 I6
          • Nov 29, 2010
          • 267

          #19
          Originally posted by Jeep madness
          I just "up graded" to a HEI distributor. I had the same thing happen. The dizzy had a gear on it and I just dropped it in. 10 miles later, a roll back is bring me back to the house. It sucks to cause I had the truck apart for the last 5 weeks swapping it a Dana 60 rear with disc brakes and now its stuck under the car port again. The motor has about 8000 miles on it so its not bad greasy and hopefully no stuck bolts. Oh mine happened yesterday.
          What gears are you going with? I just spent 3 hours washing everything so its pretty clean for the tear down. Im ordering Bulltear gears and a gasket kit tomorrow and then pull it down.
          84 Grand Wagoneer

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          • Jeep madness
            232 I6
            • Jul 27, 2010
            • 28

            #20
            Originally posted by Thumper168
            What gears are you going with? I just spent 3 hours washing everything so its pretty clean for the tear down. Im ordering Bulltear gears and a gasket kit tomorrow and then pull it down.


            I've had 2 other poeple teel me to get a Bulltear set, so that is what I'm going with too. Mine is going to have to wait until after X-mas though.

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            • The Colonel
              360 AMC
              • Feb 21, 2010
              • 2842

              #21
              Originally posted by Thumper168
              Id love to but I took it back for the core charge, I called and they said its gone allready
              When you have the cover off check to be sure there is free-play between the oil pump shaft and the dizzy gear drive- in other words, be sure when the dizzy is bolted in it isn't binding the oil pump shaft into the cover. Also check the endplay on the dizzy when the gear is installed. When I checked mine, I used prussian-blue to check the contact pattern on the gears.

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              • Thumper168
                258 I6
                • Nov 29, 2010
                • 267

                #22
                Will do and thanks !!
                84 Grand Wagoneer

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                • The Colonel
                  360 AMC
                  • Feb 21, 2010
                  • 2842

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Thumper168
                  Im 100% confident it was lined up with the oil pump, I actually had to turn it to get the timing correct and to get the dizzy to drop all the way down, the dizzy did hower have a lot of free play counter clockwise and almost none clockwise so Im guessing the cam gear had a lot of wear allready, the dizzy gear didnt look perfect but not near as bad as it is now ,lol
                  Lined up- yes it would have to be. I would just check everything out really well. You don't know if the dimensions on the replacement dizzy are off a bit?

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                  • jaber
                    Dragin Az
                    • Oct 17, 2003
                    • 8105

                    #24
                    I use a spot next to the Jeep to "lay it out" as I remove it. it helps me remember where each one goes on reinstall.
                    Use Vaselene to pack the oil pump.
                    Inspect the timing cover well while its out. easier to repace if need the first time.
                    Lots of rock&roll and have fun...
                    Jeff

                    '43 cj2a
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                    • Thumper168
                      258 I6
                      • Nov 29, 2010
                      • 267

                      #25
                      Originally posted by The Colonel
                      Lined up- yes it would have to be. I would just check everything out really well. You don't know if the dimensions on the replacement dizzy are off a bit?
                      I mis read your previous post, I understand what you were saying, I'll check it all while its apart for sure..
                      84 Grand Wagoneer

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                      • FSJ Guy
                        • Mar 20, 2005
                        • 10061

                        #26
                        Actually, several years ago, I did the "$50 distributor" deal and mine is working fine. In fact, I even swapped it over (along with the existing cam gear) to my 401 motor.

                        I remember reading that there were two different gear types and (obviously) you wanted to make sure they matched. Perhaps they changed pitch or tooth count. <shrug>
                        Ethan Brady
                        1987 Grand Wagoneer, slightly longer than stock.

                        www.bigscaryjeep.com

                        Don't mess with me. I once killed a living hinge.

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                        • Jeep madness
                          232 I6
                          • Jul 27, 2010
                          • 28

                          #27
                          I looked and measured the end of the distributor before I dropped it in. I did not notice the pitch on the gear was different until I pulled it out. Now the cam gear is toast. Live and learn!

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                          • Thumper168
                            258 I6
                            • Nov 29, 2010
                            • 267

                            #28
                            Well I just hope this repairs the problem and its over with.
                            84 Grand Wagoneer

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                            • Skeeter74
                              258 I6
                              • Sep 25, 2009
                              • 435

                              #29
                              Bulltear is great, but the cost is high. I rolled the dice and ordered the set from teamgrandwagoneer.com. I used a lot and I mean the gears were round with assembly lube, and everything is fine so far. Of course, while you are in there, I would definitely do the timing set. I got a double roller set from Edelbrock and checked the oiling paths and checked for flashing. Everything was great and has worked fine since.
                              One thing I read somewhere, is to drop the dizzy in without the gasket on it and check that it seats all the way to the base. That way you know that the dizzy isn't binding the oil pump shaft once you reinstall with the gasket in place.
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                              • fulsizjeep
                                Señor Jackhead
                                • Aug 21, 2002
                                • 22496

                                #30
                                Been there. I got the hardened gears by MSD (not brass or bronze). I forget the part numbers. They worked out fine. If it makes you feel better to buy the matched set from Bulltear, go right ahead. As it has been said, this is tedious work but not difficult.
                                Flint
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                                76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
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