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  • Wagoneerlover
    350 Buick
    • Jan 18, 2004
    • 1456

    Throttle Body injection questions

    Hey have any of you actually installed a throttle body system? (I actually know some of you have) but here is my question. did it help you with emissions? I keep on failing and instead of dumping my money into making it right it would be easier for me to get something that is easier to work with like Throttle body. Let me know.

    Was it easier or harder to pass emissions?
    88 Grand wagoneer AMC 360 all stock
    89 Grand Wagoneer AMC 360 (Deceased)


    Upgrades

    1. Electric Radiator Fan 10/15/11
    2. Cs-144 Alt 10/1/11

    All completed long ago (cannot remember when)
    1. TBI
    2. New fuel tank
    3. AW-4 Transmission
    4. Aluminum condensor
    5. Custom Gauge Panel
  • marcd
    350 Buick
    • Sep 22, 2003
    • 1071

    #2
    Better check whether you can do that in MD. I know here in VA you can't touch any of the original emmissions equipment - and they include the carb. Maryland could be different, but I would check before I put a grand into it.
    Marc D<br /><br />1990 Grand Wagoneer<br />HEI conversion

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    • DieselSJ
      304 AMC
      • May 19, 2003
      • 1925

      #3
      Whether or not it will help all depends on why you are failing your test. If you are failing because your carb is trash, then going to EFI will probably clean it up some. If you are failing because of mechanical issues with the engine (worn rings, valves, etc) or plugged cat, or things like that, then EFI won't help.
      -87 Grand, 6.5L diesel, MHI TE06H turbo, Water/air intercooler, Art Carr 700R4, CS-130, hydroboost. 21/24mpg, dead 229 [Custom 242 on the way]
      -99 XJ Limited.
      -Jeepspeed 1717 -Built 4.0, FAST EFI, Rubicon Express, Bilstein, Rigid Industries, 4 Wheel Parts, G2 Axle, Currie Enterprises
      -Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

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      • Wagoneerlover
        350 Buick
        • Jan 18, 2004
        • 1456

        #4
        Ok All I actually came across a complete throttle body injection system from a 1990 chevy astro. It came behind the 4.3 engine. I cannot resist the temptation to install it in my wag. I know that the injectors for the 350 engine are different but purchasing those should not be a problem. How difficult will it be to install the system in my rig and get it to work? what will it entail? I know that I wil have to install a few sensors and either get a chip that is programmmed or have the existing computer reprogrammed. What else wil I need and how difficult will it be? What else will I need from the donor vehicle? Have any of you ever done this? Seeing as I have most of the components already I probably can make a nice system and do it cheaper than if I bought a kit. what do you all feel?
        88 Grand wagoneer AMC 360 all stock
        89 Grand Wagoneer AMC 360 (Deceased)


        Upgrades

        1. Electric Radiator Fan 10/15/11
        2. Cs-144 Alt 10/1/11

        All completed long ago (cannot remember when)
        1. TBI
        2. New fuel tank
        3. AW-4 Transmission
        4. Aluminum condensor
        5. Custom Gauge Panel

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        • TexasJ10
          360 AMC
          • Jan 03, 2002
          • 2774

          #5
          Check out this site before considering your options further

          CustomEFIS
          * 1981 stepside, 360, 727, 208, almost stock daily driver.
          * 1982 Laredo j-10, 360, 727, in rough shape and in the process of being rebuilt with 401, NV4500, Klune,
          . NP205,d60 front, d70 rear, fender work and minimal lift. It will probably take 10 years
          * 1973 jcab mounted on 1983 j20 frame. 360/t18/208 d44/d60. Almost completed

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          • Jlamb
            327 Rambler
            • Nov 08, 2003
            • 568

            #6
            It is a VIX W or Z motor out of the Astro?

            [ July 10, 2004, 01:40 AM: Message edited by: Jlamb ]
            1979 J20,360,TH400,QT

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            • AMX factor
              360 AMC
              • Apr 06, 2003
              • 3278

              #7
              Actually you want a throttle body off a 350 or larger engine. The 4.3 has smaller bores and might actually not flow enough air for a 360. Most people I know that have done the TBI conversion use the 454 throttle body with the smaller 350 injectors.
              "I'm sick of this sickness, don't touch me you'll get this."
              1984 GWag "orphan" for sale
              2 x 1975 Matador "murder machines"
              1970 SST390 Javelin 10 yr project!

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              • mdill
                Gone. Not Forgotten.
                • Nov 22, 2000
                • 7076

                #8
                The 350 and 4.3 used the same throttle bore,
                the 454 used the larger 2" bore. The 4.3 body
                will actually have larger bores than the origional
                2150 carb. So it should be fine, larger injectors
                would be advised, then from there it is all up to
                you and your wallet, do you want the computer to
                control advance ?, do you want to retain the
                emisions system ? , do you want the knock sensor
                setup ? There is a lot of options and they come
                at various cost/performance trade off.

                Your jorney has just begun grass-hopper
                (If you really want to get in to it check out
                DYI-EFI, that is where the referanced link above
                got most-all his info.

                Mike D.
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                Home of ADHD project list

                1977 J-10 Honcho 360-T15-D20
                1977 Cherokee WT 360-Th400-NP241 true-trac(s)
                1979 Cherokee 4 Door 258-T-18-D20
                1981 Cherokee Chief WT 360-727-NP208
                1972 K20 Suburban 350 SM465 205
                And the other stuff that gets driven
                ----------------------------------------

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                • Wagoneerlover
                  350 Buick
                  • Jan 18, 2004
                  • 1456

                  #9
                  ok then maybe I actually may not be able to build the system cheaper than the guy at custom efi. However I have another idea and I shall have to post it in a new forum. Anyway I guess the throttle body swap is not really worth it in the end as it will not be cost effective and too much headache. I have another idea or two in mind. I will try those now.
                  88 Grand wagoneer AMC 360 all stock
                  89 Grand Wagoneer AMC 360 (Deceased)


                  Upgrades

                  1. Electric Radiator Fan 10/15/11
                  2. Cs-144 Alt 10/1/11

                  All completed long ago (cannot remember when)
                  1. TBI
                  2. New fuel tank
                  3. AW-4 Transmission
                  4. Aluminum condensor
                  5. Custom Gauge Panel

                  Comment

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