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Old 11-30-2006, 04:23 PM
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a chevy disc will work too and is larger than a Ford. I think the Chevy is 11" compared to the 10.5". i could be wrong but I think I'm right.

as for the hydro i could go into detail about it but it takes forever and i'm slightly annoyed with it even though it works. not beause of the set up but because of all the crap I had to go through.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:08 PM
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chevy half ton is an 11" disc, yes.
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:41 PM
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Is the Jeep T18 input not 1 1/8 10 spline? I swear I remember it being that??
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:05 PM
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called advance and it looks like everything including the throwout bearing , bushing, disk, new pressure plate is gonna run me around 330 bucks but thats centerforce stuff. im hoping i can crossreference centerforce numbers and come up with somebody elses disk. who should i go with?

#384180 on the disk
#cf361675 for the AMC pressure plate
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:05 PM
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Is the Jeep T18 input not 1 1/8 10 spline? I swear I remember it being that??


i believe it is and the np435 is 1-1/16
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:25 PM
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Ok, got ya. I was thinking the ford was also 1 1/8.
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Old 12-02-2006, 06:06 PM
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Following directions at: http://medusa.ih8mud.com/NP205/Doubler.html I pulled the shift rail (and oil seals which I replaced) and modified my 205 for twin sticking today. It went real smooth just enlarging the notched sections ~7/16". Put back together, it shifted fine and did not allow the front axle to go in a different range then the rear axle... which is all good. I just did the notching with an angle grinder with a cut off wheel and then scotch brighted it smooth.

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Old 12-04-2006, 07:03 AM
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called advance and it looks like everything including the throwout bearing , bushing, disk, new pressure plate is gonna run me around 330 bucks but thats centerforce stuff. im hoping i can crossreference centerforce numbers and come up with somebody elses disk. who should i go with?

#384180 on the disk
#cf361675 for the AMC pressure plate

if you find a good deal let me know please. i want the 15 finger pressure plate not the 3 finger.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:50 PM
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if you find a good deal let me know please. i want the 15 finger pressure plate not the 3 finger.


i cant seem to crossreference that centerforce number or find a 15 finger right off hand either. this will require deeper investigation
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:27 PM
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coo. let me know.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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Old 12-05-2006, 06:55 PM
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lets see here: got my bellhousing (t-176) my two tranny (np435) two tcases(203 and 205) now im missing the clutch componets and the doubler. still gotta pull apart the 203 clean it up and open up the 205 to make sure all is well.

looking to purchase the clutch junk once i sell my t18
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:21 PM
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I take it there's no easy way to attach this to a Jeep 727 without special adapters?
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:24 AM
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I take it there's no easy way to attach this to a Jeep 727 without special adapters?

Haven't looked at the 727 but you can probably drill your 727 bolt pattern into a GM/Dodge 203 range box and find the correct splined input...
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:25 AM
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if the t-18 sale goes well ill have my clutch and related items ready to throw it together. pics to follow
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:34 PM
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I take it there's no easy way to attach this to a Jeep 727 without special adapters?
Dodge 203's have the correct spline count and may just bolt on using the dodge tailshaft adapter. I have a dodge 203 and just used the dodge tailshaft and adapter in a jeep trans so the adapter is steel and not aluminum. Dennis
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:35 PM
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YEh I have a dodge 203 laying around too. took it off my dodge np435 I looked at the 203/205 doubler. my 205 is a dodge with a 435 adapter already on it. It just seemed easier to bolt the 205 up and look into a lomax kit later on. I checked into the clockrings and shafts needed to make a doubler. kinda high. $789 for $200 more I can have a lomax kit. but the 3 stick setup could be sweet. I never cleaned my 203 up to see what it would take to mate the 205 behind it.
Good ideas and sites on this thread Chris
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:15 PM
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cracked open the 203 today to separate the range box from the rest. the shifter linkage was a ***** to get unhooked. the only thing i need off the 203 is the range box and what gears sit inside it that are connected to the splined shaft that goes into the rear output right? that shaft sits inside the 205? i made a mess out of needle bearings pulling it apart. hope i didnt mess up
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:26 AM
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They aren't hard to separate, or shouldn't be, just back off/remove the bolts after removing the tail houseing, punch the pin on the shift rail, split the cases and stick a screw driver in there to pop off the shift acutator... if you bent it you don't need it anyway.
Keep all the large roller bearings for spares (there are some fine ones you can toss).
Here's NW Fab's guide to what you need and if you don't already have a large retaining ring remover... buy one now: http://www.northwestfab.com/203-205adaptorinstall.html
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thanks elliot. all those large roller bearings have already been sent to that big scrap heap in the sky. going to read that article now
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:19 PM
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Ok... so who's got pics of where the shifters locate in relation to the tranny tunnel cover on a FSJ installation.... ???
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