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Old 01-10-2005, 06:52 PM
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Okay, my steering shaft is apparently 180* off from it's correct position after my fourwheeling incedent last week. It still works fine, but, why is it upside down? The ragjoint is toast now, the steering wheel has a lot of play. The Jeep doesn't pull to the right anymore(why ?), which makes little sense because all this got messed up when the right tire clipped a tree stump. Maybe the front right tire was causing the pulling. I know the shaft is upside down because the steering wheel is, and the turn signal clicks off half a rotation away from where it used to. Now how exactly does the shaft go together, and where is it wrong? I'm gonna go look at the Haynes book I have, but I figure I'll ask too.
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Old 01-11-2005, 01:15 AM
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I doubt your steering shaft is upside down, it would be impossible for that to happen. I would be looking for bent draglink or center link, when you caught the stump with the wheel, you most likely bent the steering links, now to hold the wheels straight, well relatively straight the steering wheel needs to be in a different position to do that.
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:05 AM
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That's what I was thinking at first, that a link such as the drag link was bent just so, so that the steering was shifted half a turn to the right. How it could drive fine and not pull anymore is the thing I didn't understand. I began to wonder if somehow the shaft got turned upside down. The shaft is definitely 180* off though, because the turn signal does not click off if the wheel isn't turned at least a half rotation. Thanks, now where can I find the correct links? Can I find them on certain D44s, or do I need an FSJ?
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:00 AM
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Before driving this vehicle too far, check the splines directly on top of the pitman arm. You might have to clean this area (between the pitman arm and gear-box housing) with a wire brush to be able to see the splines. These splines should be perfectly straight up and down. If you notice any twisting (this would explain the 180 deg. off on the wheel) Do NOT drive the truck until you replace the gear box. It's not much fun breaking the sector shaft and loosing steering at 60 MPH.
If the sector shaft isn't twisted and nothing is bent, then maybe the shaft inside the column is twisted, which you can't tell without tearing the whole column apart.
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:38 AM
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I doubt any shaft is twisted by a half a turn, before that would happen there would be a SNAP! However it does not take much of a bend in any of the links or combo of links to put the wheel off by half a turn or more.
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If the rag joint is toast, replace it and see what happenes.
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I doubt any shaft is twisted by a half a turn, before that would happen there would be a SNAP! However it does not take much of a bend in any of the links or combo of links to put the wheel off by half a turn or more.
I take it you've never seen one twist?
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Crazy_Jeepman:
I doubt any shaft is twisted by a half a turn, before that would happen there would be a SNAP! However it does not take much of a bend in any of the links or combo of links to put the wheel off by half a turn or more.
I take it you've never seen one twist?</font>[/quote]Oh sure.............Many times.
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I was under the impression this was a serious post. Apparently I misjudged the intelligence of some folks here!
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I was under the impression this was a serious post. Apparently I misjudged the intelligence of some folks here!
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Not starting this again, are we?
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My GW's wheel was about a quarter of a turn from straight up &down but it always steered fine, I remember once it was upside down then it slowly worked its way back with normal driving
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:43 AM
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OK...whatever. I need to know what I need if the links are bent. Should they be replaced? Would I get replacements off certain Dana 44s, or only an FSJ? Can I find the correct rag joint on a GM pickup or SUV? What does it take to get to the rag joint?
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:55 PM
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What ever is bent or (do I dare say) twisted, should be replaced. But you need to go over everything in the steering. I wrote about the sector shaft because I had it happen. I wish I would have saved it (I have a use for it now). Being that your rag joint is bad, you definitely should start there. I would replace it with the same thing (from the same truck).
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Old 01-13-2005, 05:51 AM
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OK, Thanks. The Jeep should be going in tomorrow (was supposed to go in yesterday but mechanic was too busy), so I need to know about the parts. If I can get replacements off a non FSJ, or if I should start looking for an FSJ so I have a parts source ready if needed.
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