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Old 12-30-2011, 09:57 AM
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The rears are an easy swap, it's the fronts you have to bend into place.
When I did mine the rears and left font went in slick as you please. My neighbors were learning new vocabulary as I fought the left front.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:58 AM
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What kind of a project is it changing these>?

I know coil springs can knock you into the next state.

Not too bad, you'll probably have to hack your old U bolts off. For some reason dropping the gas tank comes to mind. A floor jack, jack stands, breaker bar and a strong friend or two will make the swap easier. While you're in there take a good look at the shackles, it'll be a good time to replace them.

Last but not least take some before and after pictures!
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:08 AM
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I hear both of ya!
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:16 AM
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Seriously, emergency fix is air shocks pumped up to 60-70 psi. Worked for me. I use Monroes on my '88.

I did the same thing, so far so good.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:16 AM
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I cleared out all my picture attachments but for some reason this is the biggest and only picture I can post. Sorry for distance but can see the distance between front and rear even though casrrying a 350 Buick still
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1977 FSJ, Autumn Red 360 roached gas tank to match exterior!

1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1.Total basket

1960 Electra 225 convertible 401 Nailhead 445 ft lbs of torque.

1970 455 MF'in Muncie 4 speed Buick GSX rusty yet satisfying! Drive it sideways!

1986 Chevy Silverado Dads first nice truck, claimed by the woods : (

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Old 12-30-2011, 10:18 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmm lety me attach it in separate post. That will work
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1977 FSJ, Autumn Red 360 roached gas tank to match exterior!

1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1.Total basket

1960 Electra 225 convertible 401 Nailhead 445 ft lbs of torque.

1970 455 MF'in Muncie 4 speed Buick GSX rusty yet satisfying! Drive it sideways!

1986 Chevy Silverado Dads first nice truck, claimed by the woods : (

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Old 12-30-2011, 10:27 AM
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1977 FSJ, Autumn Red 360 roached gas tank to match exterior!

1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1.Total basket

1960 Electra 225 convertible 401 Nailhead 445 ft lbs of torque.

1970 455 MF'in Muncie 4 speed Buick GSX rusty yet satisfying! Drive it sideways!

1986 Chevy Silverado Dads first nice truck, claimed by the woods : (
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:31 AM
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Okay time to go out and get the Buick running.I have it and the Jeep in the (wife calls) "Primo parking spots"
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1977 FSJ, Autumn Red 360 roached gas tank to match exterior!

1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1.Total basket

1960 Electra 225 convertible 401 Nailhead 445 ft lbs of torque.

1970 455 MF'in Muncie 4 speed Buick GSX rusty yet satisfying! Drive it sideways!

1986 Chevy Silverado Dads first nice truck, claimed by the woods : (
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:26 PM
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Can the leaf springs be bought cheaper at Napa or anywhere else?

Napa had these Rauncho (Rancho) "add a leaf kits"

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?A=RS_RS60012_0191569616&An= 599001+101981+50038+2038032+25007&Ar=AND(P_RecType %3aA)

Afraid I am going to slash one of my new tires on the rear.Scrubbing pretty bad on bumps, but having that motor back there is making it worse.Have to dig the cherry picker out of the weeds and find a spot in the barn for that engine
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1977 FSJ, Autumn Red 360 roached gas tank to match exterior!

1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1.Total basket

1960 Electra 225 convertible 401 Nailhead 445 ft lbs of torque.

1970 455 MF'in Muncie 4 speed Buick GSX rusty yet satisfying! Drive it sideways!

1986 Chevy Silverado Dads first nice truck, claimed by the woods : (
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:45 PM
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I dont understand why its so hard for people to do things the correct way. Add a leaf, air shocks? really? come on people.....

I agree. Being "cheap" in the name of "clever" is always plain stupid for which I have no sympathy. But the main reason for many people is bona fide lack of $$$. But I did say "emergency" regarding air shocks. Kept me going over the winter until I could replace the rear springs.
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:53 PM
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When I purchased, my suspension was old and saggy like yours, it would bottom out over bumps. I went with the 2inch lift cause I didnt want to dump a ton into it, but wanted a bit higher ride.

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/prod-524.htm BJs had the best prices overall, very happy with my purchase.

I understand the desire to save money, but the headache of doing it halfass once, then having to do it right later isn't worth the hassle. I did my suspension alone, was doable but having a second set of hands would have been nice.

Just save up and do it right the first time.....
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:43 PM
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Your springs are absolutely WASTED! Adding blocks or the AALs (Add A Leaf) will only result in throwing good money after bad! You can get springs that will lift your rig such as the 2" and 4" and get decent results. If/when you get to the point of wanting BIG shoes under it then you will be looking at 6-8" springs or going SOA front and can reverse the shackle in the rear. One thing I will say is that if you are looking for a cushier ride you wont find it in an AAL and in most lifted springs. I havent researched lift springs in your application so I'm not up on the cost part of it. When you begin to lift your FSJ its not just bolting in the new springs. Depending on how high you lift you will need to consider pinion angles, extended brake lines, longer shocks, etc.

IF you want to keep your stock ride for now considering your budget, check into someone who has already swapped out their stock springs and that they are still in good shape. I have a full set of leaf springs in really good shape that sat level on the 1987 Grand Wagoneer I'm parting out. If you are interested email me direct : tigger4x@yahoo.com with IFSJA ~ Leaf Springs in the subject line.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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The Poor farm

If I do this I am going to have to go air shock route.That $750 and having to install the kit from BJ's just isn't going to happen (no pay in 2 MONTHS).

Not telling anyone any news but getting tired of sinking thousands into this project and getting crappy gas mileage,stuff screwing up all the time and looking at resale prices on these that will just begin at "loosing my shirt"

I think if I dropped another 4 grand in mine with the 4 grand already invested in it (purchase price and repairs SO FAR) anyhow if I end up with about 8 grand in it I could probably sell it for $3500 (on a good day in a good economy ).

Think I am going to repair electrical damage from small dash fire so heater and a/c works again,repair a couple rust holes,install the air shocks,paint it myself and park it for when I need it and drive the little Super Charged Bonneville I traded a bunch of junk for.

Just wanted a Jeep around to drive on our property or when it snowed but for a daily driver it is KILLIN me
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1977 FSJ, Autumn Red 360 roached gas tank to match exterior!

1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1.Total basket

1960 Electra 225 convertible 401 Nailhead 445 ft lbs of torque.

1970 455 MF'in Muncie 4 speed Buick GSX rusty yet satisfying! Drive it sideways!

1986 Chevy Silverado Dads first nice truck, claimed by the woods : (
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