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Old 04-23-2019, 10:43 PM
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You don't like the idea of a storage tray in place of the speaker? Something about 2" deep?
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:43 PM
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Coming along very nicely.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:32 PM
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You don't like the idea of a storage tray in place of the speaker? Something about 2" deep?
I love the idea of it, but being a TJ owner I know that having a storage tray on the dash is a good way to get your stuff in the passenger floorboard, or even out the window. Just my thoughts on the subject, whatever you do is going to be cool though.
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:02 AM
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Thanks babywag!


Todd, I know what you mean about the TJ tray. It was pretty useless most of the time. Too shallow really. I'm thinking a deeper box would keep stuff from flying around. I dunno. I hate to go through the work of fililng in that speaker hole without putting something useful there.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:16 AM
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Todd, I know what you mean about the TJ tray. It was pretty useless most of the time. Too shallow really. I'm thinking a deeper box would keep stuff from flying around. I dunno. I hate to go through the work of fililng in that speaker hole without putting something useful there.

Maybe make a simple lid, wouldn't be hard...
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:20 PM
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True. I'd like to find a pre-made steel box and just weld it in. Lol. I wonder if Tuffy has something...
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Old 04-26-2019, 01:05 PM
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Your dash work already looks so awesome with the stereo panels and that bezel so regardless of what you choose to do with the speaker hole, its gonna look good.

I don't like putting things on my dash because I have had too many pieces end up in the defrost vents over the years. Or baked/melted in the hot sun. They also bounce around and reflect off the inside of the windshield sometimes and that can get annoying, too. I only had one car that ever had a dash where I could put stuff on it (my Geo) so maybe its just my knuckleheadedness but that's my 2 cents. Like I said, I think whatever you do, its going to look awesome.
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:11 PM
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Finally getting back on the dash again. Had to take a break to get the purple car ready for a car show and road trip. It was a success.


I ended up taking the instrument bezel to a guy to have him TIG weld the face to help hide my welding imperfections. Lol. It looks brutal in this pic but it looks a lot nicer after bead blasting it. It shows a lot of heat but it didn't warp. I forgot to take an after pic.


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Old 05-18-2019, 03:26 PM
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So getting back to that ugly speaker hole..... I've decided to cut out the speaker hole and replace it with.....another speaker hole. I couldn't find another speaker with the same bolt pattern otherwise I would have just cut out the two sunken areas and replaced them. But since that didn't happen, that left door open to put in whatever I wanted. I ended up buying a 5x7 dual voice coil speaker. This one is "ultra thin" as I needed clearance to the top of the head unit. This is a Retrosound R-57N.












The plan was to cut a custom speaker grill and graft it into the dash. After a few different designs and test samples, I ended up with this.









I had to keep the metal bars a bit thicker than I wanted as my Plasma cutter isn't built to cut thin material. All it does is burn and melt smaller, more detailed cuts. I had the machine using the smallest (20 amp) tip and turned as low as it would go (20 amps) and it still burned stuff. But it can cut 1.5" if I ever need it too.


Before.....









After....













I still have some clean up to do, but it's not a big deal. Also, I should have marked the screw holes on the back of the grill before welding on. I didn't, thinking the curve of the dash would throw the holes off, but I wish I would have done it anyhow. The plan is to try and weld screw "studs" in place instead of drilling holes. I want to keep the dash smooth on top. That'll be next week.
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:10 PM
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As usual, life gets busy, work itself and other cars (and Jeeps) to work on. I'm gonna get back on this dash this upcoming week I hope.



Someone had mentioned on the FB page that the 74-77 and 78-85 AC units are different from each other. Mine (74) is still under the dash and in the vehicle, but I do have this "later" dash and AC unit I've been playing with. The intention was to use the later AC unit with the dash since it's out of the vehicle and I can work on the dash and AC on the work bench. So my question is, is there a major difference on the two AC units? Like, will I be wasting time to modify the 78-85 AC unit to use in my '74? As long as it all bolts up, I don't really care about switches, AC vents being different etc. I'm going all custom anyhow. I'm just more concerned with shape and size, but I can't imagine they're not the same shape and size....
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:10 PM
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That speaker grill design with the wider bars and oval shape looks retro-cool! awesome work, as usual.

Wish i had that idea on the dash in my rig.
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:49 PM
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Thank you sir! I tried to keep it old school looking while trying to keep the bars thick and strong.
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Old 08-20-2019, 08:53 AM
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That speaker grill design with the wider bars and oval shape looks retro-cool!

That's exactly what I was thinking, JPSwapMohn. Very nice solution and should be the go to design whenever someone asks for a suggestion about what to do with the speaker hole in their dash. Nicely done, Bkilby!
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:18 AM
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GET THAT THING PAINTED AND INSTALLED so we can all drool over it!!!
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:11 PM
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OK Rang! Lol. I was thinking of doing the dash in green with black inserts but now I'm wavering a little on that. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet....
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:36 PM
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So.....trying to find the time to move on with this project, I went to West Coast Customs today. They're literally the next street over. I asked for a quote to paint the dash. A little body work and paint. The guy says the paint is the easy part, but it'll take 2 days to prep the dash for paint. $2500! Yup, $2500. WTF? They're charging $1000 a day for body work? Lol! Ok, that's not gonna happen. Gonna try a couple of other paint shops in the next few days. I'm about ready to take a crash course on body work and paint and do this myself. But I know nothing on both subjects. :-(
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:17 AM
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ANYBODY can do it...just do your research and make sure to take your time on the prep.

If you decide not to DIY find a "hot rod" shop(that isn't on TV) or find a normal bodyshop that does German cars(picky picky owners).

LMAO on their prices but they cater to people with $$$ to burn/are absolutely clueless
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:40 AM
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Yeah, I know. I really can do some body work and paint if I just get my head into it. Finding the time is the problem right now. But, with a $2500 quote, I'm feeling a bit motivated. Lol.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:46 AM
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2 days to prep?!? Your dash isn't that messed up!!

If you look at the work Full Size Jeeper is doing on his Wagoneer, it's pretty amazing, and it's his first paint job.
Look at his hood and fender here

For the money you are going to pay someone, you can buy a good gun (about $400) and all the supplies. Then when you are done, you still have the gun and left over supplies to do the little bits that will go with it.
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...Finding the time is the problem right now...
That can be the killer.
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:25 PM
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shops like that slather everything with filler(needed or not)so takes 25x longer to "prep"&paint because they have to sand whole dash/then prime/sand/prime/paint.

watch the show sometimes great example what NOT to do.
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