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  • babywag
    out of order
    • Jun 08, 2005
    • 10280

    GM standalone cruise control swap

    Anybody done it yet?
    I have a unit from the wreckmaster I bought for punishment, er I mean parts.

    You know the one, used on GM cars/trucks 80s & 90s.
    I am guessing it will be an easy swap.
    Especially since I have TBI already, the column stalk is GM, etc.

    Be nice to lose the stupid vacuum crap archaic setup!
    Tony
    88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8
  • SJTD
    304 AMC
    • Apr 26, 2012
    • 1945

    #2
    No vacuum??? Maybe work on a Diesel?

    Got pics?
    Sic friatur crustulum

    '84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.

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    • kansasboy001
      232 I6
      • Nov 06, 2016
      • 163

      #3
      I'd be interested as well if the column switch was cruise only. Would be perfect for pre 1986 jeeps
      1983 Cherokee Laredo. 360/ 727/ np228/ Junkyard 7427 TBI/ Msd ignition

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      • babywag
        out of order
        • Jun 08, 2005
        • 10280

        #4
        column switch on 86-91 is turn, headlights(hi/low), wipers, and cruise.
        earlier just cruise stalks could work? I'd have to see one...
        Tony
        88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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        • bufurd
          327 Rambler
          • Apr 13, 2008
          • 584

          #5
          The Dakota Digital unit is so easy, clean and works so well, I'll never have a vehicle without cruise control again.
          Current fleet
          Abner-73 He started it all in 1979 (plow truck now)
          Bufurd-69 Fixed up to take Abners place as DD
          Delta-70 Built for fun, 455 Olds, T-18, D-20, 4:10 gears
          Humpty-74 J-20 4BT, NV4500, 30+MPG
          07 JK Wife bought new...
          13 Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk, wifes new ride

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          • babywag
            out of order
            • Jun 08, 2005
            • 10280

            #6
            Made some progress on this recently.

            Got a VSS buffer from boneyard and wired it up.



            Rounded up donor stuff from my stash of junk.



            Here is where it will live.



            Still need to go grab female pigtail from junkyard for column cruise switch.
            Stay tuned for more.
            Tony
            88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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            • 67GMC
              232 I6
              • Mar 13, 2016
              • 83

              #7
              You'll also may need a brake switch to cancel the cruise if you don't have one. I think it has to be a separate switch from the brake lights. I can't recall if my '84 has one but I'm pretty sure my '87XJ had two brake switches.

              Good luck. I have three vehicles with non-working cruise. All my GM stuff worked forever but for some reason, Jeep and VW can't seem to keep their cruise control working.

              Cruise is a must for me too. My Toyota has Radar Cruise control and it's really slick. Slows down automatically if you come up behind someone going slower than you.
              My Stable:
              1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 5.9L, 4x4, Auto (newest project)

              1997 Volkswagen Cabrio, 2.0L, Manual
              2005 Kia Sportage, 2.7L, Auto
              2006 Toyota Sienna, 3.3L, Auto
              2018 Toyota RAV4, 2.5L, Auto

              Recent projects (no longer with us)
              1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L, 4X4, Auto
              1967 GMC 910, 283V8, 4SPD (RIP)

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              • babywag
                out of order
                • Jun 08, 2005
                • 10280

                #8
                Brake switch is in the pic. White dude w/ 2 wires.
                Tony
                88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                • rang-a-stang
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 31, 2016
                  • 5456

                  #9
                  Watching.

                  I bought an early GM cruise stalk for my 79 and it was exactly the same as the stock "Jeep" one I removed. Since we have GM columns, I bet the wiring colors and connectors will be the same between that module and the AMC one.
                  This early model GM column cruise control switch is available at The Cruise Control Store, and is easy to install. Learn more about this product here.


                  The wiring for the switch is also the same as the Dakota Digital CC module. I am hoping all that means the GM will bolt in with minimal wiring changes.

                  Did that module mount up use existing holes in the fender well or did you drill new ones?
                  Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
                  (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
                  79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
                  (Cherokee Build Thread)
                  11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
                  09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
                  00 Baby Cherokee

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                  • babywag
                    out of order
                    • Jun 08, 2005
                    • 10280

                    #10
                    Even if wiring is different on switch easily figured out.
                    It's just 4 wires for column switch.
                    I had to order a new column dealio too...mine tested bad.
                    Figures...but only $13 shipped for brand new one.

                    I drilled 3 small new holes to mount the module.
                    Got extra brake switch installed and stopped there.

                    Still need go boneyard for that cruise switch wiring connector & donor for a cable bracket.
                    Tony
                    88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                    • babywag
                      out of order
                      • Jun 08, 2005
                      • 10280

                      #11
                      So wasted 2hrs @ local yard today.
                      Not a single donor for stupid connector I wanted/needed.
                      Going to just cut off the goofy flat connector and use something else.
                      Tony
                      88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                      • 67GMC
                        232 I6
                        • Mar 13, 2016
                        • 83

                        #12
                        Come on. It just seems like 2 wasted years LOL!
                        My Stable:
                        1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 5.9L, 4x4, Auto (newest project)

                        1997 Volkswagen Cabrio, 2.0L, Manual
                        2005 Kia Sportage, 2.7L, Auto
                        2006 Toyota Sienna, 3.3L, Auto
                        2018 Toyota RAV4, 2.5L, Auto

                        Recent projects (no longer with us)
                        1987 Jeep Cherokee Laredo, 4.0L, 4X4, Auto
                        1967 GMC 910, 283V8, 4SPD (RIP)

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                        • babywag
                          out of order
                          • Jun 08, 2005
                          • 10280

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 67GMC
                          Come on. It just seems like 2 wasted years LOL!
                          HA! no doubt...guess my phone sub-ed yrs for hrs?

                          Anywho wired it up, all electrical tested out as it should.

                          Then as usual an unexpected complication, the throttle connector for the cable is different.
                          Unit came from a roadmaster guess TBI is different. So I'll have to redneck engineer something to connect the cable.
                          Was hoping to road test it tonight
                          Tony
                          88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                          • johnsonic
                            258 I6
                            • Mar 12, 2015
                            • 335

                            #14
                            For something like this, would you need TBI? Or does it just need the right pulse generator? My CC worked for about 7 minutes and might want to get something with more available parts and not running on vacuum.
                            1984 GW
                            360
                            Comp 260H
                            Harland Sharp Roller Rockers
                            Wiseco -21cc Forged Pistons
                            Performer Intake
                            Holley SA 670
                            MSD 8523
                            Dakota Digital custom cluster
                            Serehill headlamp harness
                            NWMP aux tank

                            1987 GW deceased
                            ...but the parts live on

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                            • babywag
                              out of order
                              • Jun 08, 2005
                              • 10280

                              #15
                              Originally posted by johnsonic
                              For something like this, would you need TBI?

                              Absolutely not, you would need a gm vss 4 out buffer like pictured.
                              TBI cars used them.
                              It takes the Jeep 8k vss signal and divides it to a 4k signal that the cruise module uses. It's a stand-alone system.

                              Need from donor...
                              Cruise module, wiring, brake pedal(lower) switch, vss buffer.
                              Brake switch is important it is hot until press pedal then open. Reverse of brake light switch.
                              All pictured above.
                              Tony
                              88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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