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  • jeepjseries
    350 Buick
    • May 30, 2009
    • 1418

    parking brake issue

    1976 jeep Wagoneer parking brake issue. I can push down parking brake and it holds well, but as soon as I let off the pedal it releases. my question is what isn't working to hold the pedal in place?
    -2000 Volkswagen Jetta diesel
    -1976 Wagoneer 401/Turbo 400/QT with 4 low/Dana 44s
  • wiley-moeracing
    350 Buick
    • Feb 15, 2010
    • 1430

    #2
    You need a replacement foot pedal assembly for the parking brake in the cab, the gears get worn down or the rivet gets sloppy that holds the unit together.

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    • devildog80
      327 Rambler
      • Apr 13, 2022
      • 705

      #3
      Might have a broken spring in there that hold the ratchet cog down in the teeth to engage the foot pedal.

      You can probably push the pedal down, then push (do not pull) the release handle, and it might engage.

      If it does, then probably a broken spring.

      NOTE- Do not trust that park brake to hold working like it does. Always make sure you have the rig in gear or chock the wheels.
      '81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift

      '84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift

      Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified

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      • jeepjseries
        350 Buick
        • May 30, 2009
        • 1418

        #4
        Originally posted by devildog80
        Might have a broken spring in there that hold the ratchet cog down in the teeth to engage the foot pedal.

        You can probably push the pedal down, then push (do not pull) the release handle, and it might engage.

        If it does, then probably a broken spring.

        NOTE- Do not trust that park brake to hold working like it does. Always make sure you have the rig in gear or chock the wheels.
        ok thank you sir, I'll try that. Thank you for the replies. I will work on getting a different assembly.
        -2000 Volkswagen Jetta diesel
        -1976 Wagoneer 401/Turbo 400/QT with 4 low/Dana 44s

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        • Heep-J4000
          350 Buick
          • Feb 09, 2014
          • 872

          #5
          I always have hated those types of park brakes.
          Can't trust them at all!
          Through the years my Jeeps park brake decided to engage and my truck rolled a couple meters and had to run to press the brake pedal to save it.

          I'm replacing it with a pull park brake assembly from a 40/41 Ford truck.
          Jeep "because mother nature hates flat roads to"

          http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=180974

          99' Dodge ram 2500 4x4 crew cab 5.9 Cummins ,backup work truck for now
          73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is getting major overhaul at the moment!)
          80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
          70/71 Jeep J4000 parts truck with Buick 350

          Former vehicles:
          85' Volkswagen caddy mk1 1.6 diesel.
          83 Toyota land cruiser BJ42 3.4 diesel.

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          • devildog80
            327 Rambler
            • Apr 13, 2022
            • 705

            #6
            The one that mounts parallel under the dash?

            I remember those, and they were cool
            '81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift

            '84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift

            Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified

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            • Heep-J4000
              350 Buick
              • Feb 09, 2014
              • 872

              #7
              Originally posted by devildog80
              The one that mounts parallel under the dash?

              I remember those, and they were cool
              You mean the rod type with a T-handle that pulls towards you!?

              Those are cool ,but I choose for this type,


              It is going to sit at the same place under the dash as the original foot park brake.
              Jeep "because mother nature hates flat roads to"

              http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=180974

              99' Dodge ram 2500 4x4 crew cab 5.9 Cummins ,backup work truck for now
              73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is getting major overhaul at the moment!)
              80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
              70/71 Jeep J4000 parts truck with Buick 350

              Former vehicles:
              85' Volkswagen caddy mk1 1.6 diesel.
              83 Toyota land cruiser BJ42 3.4 diesel.

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              • devildog80
                327 Rambler
                • Apr 13, 2022
                • 705

                #8
                Oh yes, I thought the T handles were cool too

                This old Chevy under dash type was my thought

                med_1379581339-1966__to_1972_style_Chevy_C10_e_brake_system_01 by Scott Weckerly, on Flickr
                Last edited by devildog80; 07-17-2022, 02:26 PM.
                '81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift

                '84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift

                Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified

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                • Heep-J4000
                  350 Buick
                  • Feb 09, 2014
                  • 872

                  #9
                  I was thinking about the Chevy under dash type but could not figure out how they mount on the steering column and if it could work with the jeep column
                  Also did not find any good pictures of it and then I came across the ford type lever so that is the way I went.
                  Jeep "because mother nature hates flat roads to"

                  http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=180974

                  99' Dodge ram 2500 4x4 crew cab 5.9 Cummins ,backup work truck for now
                  73' Jeep J4000 (named Heep or Desert Dragon) amc 360 V8 converted to LPG with T15/D20 (was my daily work truck for thirteen years and is getting major overhaul at the moment!)
                  80' Jeep cj5 350 V8 Chevy/sm420/D300 project
                  70/71 Jeep J4000 parts truck with Buick 350

                  Former vehicles:
                  85' Volkswagen caddy mk1 1.6 diesel.
                  83 Toyota land cruiser BJ42 3.4 diesel.

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                  • tgreese
                    • May 29, 2003
                    • 11682

                    #10
                    The OEM pedal frame can also bend. Comes from stomping on the pedal at an angle. These pedals went through several revisions, and '76 is early.

                    If the frame of the assembly is bent, the pawl no longer lines up with the ratchet and the brake won't stay set. You can remove the assembly and try to straighten it, or reset/replace the pivot rivet if that's the problem. If the teeth are worn, I'd say it's done.

                    We replaced a lot of these on warranty in the '70s.

                    Wrangler YJs use a similar pedal - you might be able to make one of those work.
                    Last edited by tgreese; 07-19-2022, 08:26 AM.
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