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05-28-2002, 08:27 AM
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This isn't an interior upgrade but it is still a nice upgrade to have. this site describes how to build an onboard welder for around $200.
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/2472/obweld.html
You may not be able to click on this site you may have to copy and paste.
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05-28-2002, 10:27 AM
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You can get additional useful inofrmation and the parts you need at Zena
Zena
Their home page is really confusing, but if you move half way down into the Installation and accessory sections their is some good info.
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* 1981 stepside, 360, 727, 208, almost stock daily driver.
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05-28-2002, 11:52 AM
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LOL boy is this going to piss of the power/link etc. guys. One thing I would suggest is keeping a fire extinguisher handy when you use one of these, high amps and oil are a bad combination [img]smile.gif[/img]
(course you should ALWAYS have a fire extinguisher on board your 4w4 anyway). If I get the time i'm going to build one of these and try it out, but think I'll use a rebuilt 85 amp to see if can get the juice I need at lower rpm's than he did.
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05-28-2002, 12:37 PM
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Grease Monkey
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Here's the one I've been looking at.. Alot less than $200 depending on how much you pay for the alt..It uses a 90amp Ford altenator which are tough and plentiful.. homebuilt welder [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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05-30-2002, 10:34 AM
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Highsteel, or anyone who saw the pirate 4x4 post.
Did anyone save this a source file to their HD. I still can't get it opened.
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...Pay no attention to these heathen barbarians with their cutting torches and 8" lift kits!...
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05-30-2002, 01:21 PM
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FSJ Maniac
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tadsal...ask and yee shall receive. Check your email buddy.
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05-31-2002, 09:40 AM
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Master Mechanic
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hey thanks all im gonn give both of these a try and try to work with what i get oh btw tadsal what the heck is a stringer?
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05-31-2002, 09:55 AM
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Wow, that's cool. I even have a spare alt., I guess it could be hooked up where the smog pump used to be if some brackets were fabbed.
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05-31-2002, 10:31 AM
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Stringer beads are just straight weld beads. No joint or seam, practice beads really. All you would really need to carry for trail use would be some 7014. Easy to use, low slag, medium penetration, all position and would get you by if you needed to weld some cast iron in a pinch.
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2000 Infinity QX4, 3.3L, MPFI, 4 speed auto, 2 speed Nissan tcase, Unibody, IFS front, 4 link rear solid axle with 255-70/16s
IFSJA WMS PROJECT
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05-31-2002, 10:44 AM
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FSJ Maniac
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That's a "stringer bead" but a "stringer" is the handle that holds the welding rod. I think. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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83 Wagoneer Brougham (Rolled) Woooof
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05-31-2002, 10:54 AM
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No, that's called a stinger.
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05-31-2002, 03:04 PM
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Duh...like I didn't know that!  Stinger/Stringer...if your missing one you'll have no weld, LOL. Thanks tadsal, now I'm going to burn a hole in the side of your rig...on accident of course.. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]
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83 Wagoneer Brougham (Rolled) Woooof
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06-01-2002, 12:09 AM
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I know all welders have there favorite rods. 7014 is a good rod but I have found that it is not to great out of position(any welding position not flat) I am not saying it cannot be done, but requires technique to make it work. For my money I would use 6011 this rod can be used in almost any position and penetrates well, since most of the steel on out Jeeps is mild steel it will do for most any thing on them. This is just my preferance. 
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06-01-2002, 12:28 AM
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Any rod with a "1" in the third number position is an all position rod. 6010, 6011, 6013, 7014, 7018.
Sure wagdriver, you can have your prefrence for welding rods. Course now I like to use rods for their intended purpose. 6011 like 6010 was designed for the root pass on pipe. But, no harm no foul.
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2000 Infinity QX4, 3.3L, MPFI, 4 speed auto, 2 speed Nissan tcase, Unibody, IFS front, 4 link rear solid axle with 255-70/16s
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06-01-2002, 03:43 AM
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i like the smell of 6011, it reminds me of the ship yard.
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06-02-2002, 12:14 AM
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Well I guess I never read those books like I should have years ago. Tad thanks for the info. All these years and I never knew the two facts that you just gave me and everyone else here. I knew that 6011 works well in any position but I was not aware that it was for root passes on pipe that explains a lot things for me. The bead is not really pretty but it is strong, again thanks for the info. Thats what we have you here for, to teach all that good stuff.
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