International Full Size Jeep Association
Home Forums Reader's Rigs Tech Library Trail Stories FSJ-List
International Full Size Jeep Association  

Go Back   International Full Size Jeep Association > Tire Kickin' > Fuel Injection

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-31-2011, 01:07 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
wish me luck! gettin injected

before (sad)
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/...k/IM001413.jpg

so far: aluminum radiator (BJ's) Proform HEI, MSD 8.5mm plug wires, alum. res. for rad. & washer fluid, new water pump, pwr steering pump, Doug Thorley TRI-Y's edlebrock valve covers, edelbrock performer intake, in process of installing Howell TBI....wish me luck, I'll let ya know.

during (looking better)

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/...agtbistart.jpg
and the saga goes on...
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-31-2011, 01:27 PM
Beach_Dude's Avatar
Beach_Dude Beach_Dude is offline
327 Rambler
 
Join Date: Mar 03, 2011
Location: Newport Beach
Posts: 567
God I wish I could spend the money on that!!! Good luck and it looks great!
__________________
1977 Jeep Cherokee Chief
360 w/ MC 4350
All stock but ignition and slightly modified suspection
Original paint, garaged/non-op for over 15 years
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-31-2011, 01:55 PM
austinaubinoe's Avatar
austinaubinoe austinaubinoe is offline
FSJ Maniac
 
Join Date: Aug 08, 2010
Location: Maryland/ Williamsport, PA
Posts: 2,995
WOW big money! Let me know how you like those headers, I want to order them BAD! Hey whats the point of having money if ya cant spend it on your jeep

And do you plan to get the doug Thorley 3" exhaust and muffler? Are you ditching your cat with the headers?
__________________
Austin

1991 Hunter Green Grand Wagoneer
5.9 2bbl-727-NP229-TFI-30x9.5 Firestone M/T's-Brush Guard-tire mount
SOON: 4350 and cast iron intake

Others:
-1994 Baby Grand
-2000 XJ cherokee on Tons
-1953 REO M35A2 6x6
-1955 Willys Pickup



Quote:
Originally Posted by rustywagoneers_com
i am not an addict, i can stop anytime.
i dont have a problem, you people have the problem.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-31-2011, 05:19 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
thanks!

got rid of the cat, now plan on 3" back and over, then gonna try to stuff a small magnaflo out back, past the rear end. I loved the Thorleys for the few days I ran 'em before gas started to pour out the back of the carb , so I yanked the top & dove in! I bought all the parts back in August 2010, just now gettin a chance and weather to hook 'er up. Well, better get my buttocks out there, not gonna finish itself! Thanks for the support, I got all my info on this site; heck, ya'll are the reason I'm broke!
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-31-2011, 06:18 PM
austinaubinoe's Avatar
austinaubinoe austinaubinoe is offline
FSJ Maniac
 
Join Date: Aug 08, 2010
Location: Maryland/ Williamsport, PA
Posts: 2,995
Quote:
Originally Posted by fullsizejeepfreak
got rid of the cat, now plan on 3" back and over, then gonna try to stuff a small magnaflo out back, past the rear end. I loved the Thorleys for the few days I ran 'em before gas started to pour out the back of the carb , so I yanked the top & dove in! I bought all the parts back in August 2010, just now gettin a chance and weather to hook 'er up. Well, better get my buttocks out there, not gonna finish itself! Thanks for the support, I got all my info on this site; heck, ya'll are the reason I'm broke!

NICE! Plan on just buying the entire exhaust. I too plan to ditch the cat. Any pics of the headers on the motor, err better pics?


Did you consider the edelbrock air gap intake? Thats really the one I want, cept im sticking with a 4bbl carb.
__________________
Austin

1991 Hunter Green Grand Wagoneer
5.9 2bbl-727-NP229-TFI-30x9.5 Firestone M/T's-Brush Guard-tire mount
SOON: 4350 and cast iron intake

Others:
-1994 Baby Grand
-2000 XJ cherokee on Tons
-1953 REO M35A2 6x6
-1955 Willys Pickup



Quote:
Originally Posted by rustywagoneers_com
i am not an addict, i can stop anytime.
i dont have a problem, you people have the problem.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-31-2011, 06:25 PM
csuengr's Avatar
csuengr csuengr is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Jan 19, 2011
Location: Loveland, CO
Posts: 748
I don't get the point behind removing the catalytic converter. They really aren't that restrictive and they make the breathing a little easier.
__________________
If at first you don't succeed, use a bigger hammer.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-31-2011, 06:30 PM
austinaubinoe's Avatar
austinaubinoe austinaubinoe is offline
FSJ Maniac
 
Join Date: Aug 08, 2010
Location: Maryland/ Williamsport, PA
Posts: 2,995
Quote:
Originally Posted by csuengr
I don't get the point behind removing the catalytic converter. They really aren't that restrictive and they make the breathing a little easier.

Well basically of cost. Stock Cats are restrictive, and to small for a 3" exhaust. Would rather save the $100. The Doug Thorley exhaust system comes with a length of pipe that can easily be removed to install a cat. So if I want one down the road it would a 10 minute install.

Put it this way, I could get an edelbrock 1406 carb and a 3" cat, or a Holley 670 TA.
__________________
Austin

1991 Hunter Green Grand Wagoneer
5.9 2bbl-727-NP229-TFI-30x9.5 Firestone M/T's-Brush Guard-tire mount
SOON: 4350 and cast iron intake

Others:
-1994 Baby Grand
-2000 XJ cherokee on Tons
-1953 REO M35A2 6x6
-1955 Willys Pickup



Quote:
Originally Posted by rustywagoneers_com
i am not an addict, i can stop anytime.
i dont have a problem, you people have the problem.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-31-2011, 09:15 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
ditto. until I can afford a full flow cat,3", I'll have to be one of "those people", sorry....really. I'll post more pics later of the hedders.
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-01-2011, 08:17 AM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
Couple more pictures



__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-01-2011, 08:35 AM
Chrome's Avatar
Chrome Chrome is offline
Ph.D in Redneckology
 
Join Date: Aug 30, 2002
Location: Tupelo, Mississippi
Posts: 8,526
NICE!!!!
__________________
..,=====,o00o
//__l_l_,\____\,__
l_---\_l__l---0
lllllll0
_(o)_)__(o)_)--o-)_)___


1983 Cherokee Chief Laredo W/T 360/auto

1982 Cherokee Chief W/T 360/4 speed

I now have an official Muslim name...Ochroma Bin Polishin.

Click link for pics of restored Full Size Jeeps (on last page)
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/363842\
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-01-2011, 10:26 AM
Greenfish Greenfish is offline
Grease Monkey
 
Join Date: Jul 12, 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 468
Can i ask what made you go with the Howell TBI unit? I've been thinking of EFI for my rig and looked at the Howell unit.

The Howell is $1300 on the web site and seems to be the most "basic" of units and the least adjustable.

The FAST EZ EFI and Holley EFI are both just under $2000. Ive seen the FAST unit as low as $1800. So for another $500 you can get a much nicer EFI so it seems. In the grand scheme of things it seems the FAST is worth it.

Just wanted to get your "pros" on the Howell and why you chose it.
__________________
Baltimore
1991 Grand Wagoneer, Rebuilt 360, Eddy Perf Manifold, Razor Grill
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (my baby)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-01-2011, 05:56 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
MY reasons

1-it was available as a no tuning required plug and play system for the most part.
2-Didn't have to stop around junk yards to do it myself
3-don't care about spark control
4-love technology, care deeply for simplicity/fewest possible parts to achieve desired effects...I don't need EVERYTHING! Compromise is key to enjoying something without obssessing and spending every dime and all my time.
5-Matt at BJ's talked me into it, said the other sytem they sell requires much more time, tuning, etc.
6-I didn't know any better, that was 7 months and ooohhhh sooooo many hours studying ifsja ago. If I had to do it again, I would likely get Howell to add spark control control to the harness, get the 7 pin module, knock sensor, etc., but this setup should be fine for my wife's daily driver/ family road trip mobile; mild and simple....as many new parts as possible.



__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-01-2011, 06:21 PM
Greenfish Greenfish is offline
Grease Monkey
 
Join Date: Jul 12, 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 468
Quote:
Originally Posted by fullsizejeepfreak
1-it was available as a no tuning required plug and play system for the most part.
2-Didn't have to stop around junk yards to do it myself
3-don't care about spark control
4-love technology, care deeply for simplicity/fewest possible parts to achieve desired effects...I don't need EVERYTHING! Compromise is key to enjoying something without obssessing and spending every dime and all my time.
5-Matt at BJ's talked me into it, said the other sytem they sell requires much more time, tuning, etc.
6-I didn't know any better, that was 7 months and ooohhhh sooooo many hours studying ifsja ago. If I had to do it again, I would likely get Howell to add spark control control to the harness, get the 7 pin module, knock sensor, etc., but this setup should be fine for my wife's daily driver/ family road trip mobile; mild and simple....as many new parts as possible.




Cool, did you buy straight from the Howell website?
__________________
Baltimore
1991 Grand Wagoneer, Rebuilt 360, Eddy Perf Manifold, Razor Grill
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda (my baby)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-01-2011, 08:40 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
No, got it from BJ's, of course it was drop shipped, took longer than I was told, little communication, etc. That part of the experiance I would most assuredly change; order from howell unless a little ifsja discount is worth the hassle (if u get the discount, I didn't). Besides, it's nice to speak with those guys, they are great! Informative, knowledgeable, cust. service oriented...everything you want when you spend that kind of money! My ordering experience was NOT warm and fuzzy!
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-01-2011, 08:41 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome
NICE!!!!
THANKS!
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-23-2011, 07:02 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
IT'S RUNNING!!!

Hooked up the balance, topped up the water, she started! Ran rough to begin with, still seems to be searching for a stable idle, but its running pretty well and seems to have good power. gotta figure out the ses light, came on initially, now not on at all....oh well, more troubleshooting. At least its running again!
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-23-2011, 08:24 PM
jaber's Avatar
jaber jaber is offline
Dragin Az
 
Join Date: Oct 17, 2003
Location: Chino Valley, Arizona
Posts: 8,061
Quote:
Originally Posted by fullsizejeepfreak
gotta figure out the ses light, came on initially, now not on at all....oh well, more troubleshooting. At least its running again!

Mine flash at me when starting, but turn off when running, that means all systems are within parameters.
__________________
Jeff


46 cj2a

51 Willys p/u
'51 Willys Parkway Conversion
'74 CJ5
'75 J-20 Wrecker
'75 J-20 Cummins service bed
'77 J-10 p/u
'79 Cherokee
'88 Grand Wagoneer
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/jeffaber/
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-23-2011, 08:43 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
I had the fuse block hooked up to a constant hot....dummy. gonna find the right one in the morning. All the chat about using relays to switch the fuse block, dizzy, etc. on has me paranoid about hooking it to the old ignition wire, which is where my dizzy is currently connected. Any suggestions? I know the 87 model year had a yellow wire, not the red/white stripe others have talked about, and I think I located it on top of the column, but wouldn't that put the current through the ignition also? Does it matter? is the ignition not rated highly enough to take the load? I may just check all the hots at the backside of the fuse block until I find the right one. Still stoked to have her running again! I know the other problems will work out, just gotta get more pics posted so I don't get yelled at



__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-23-2011, 08:54 PM
jaber's Avatar
jaber jaber is offline
Dragin Az
 
Join Date: Oct 17, 2003
Location: Chino Valley, Arizona
Posts: 8,061
I tapped into the yellow at the starter relay on the fender well. Been just fine.
__________________
Jeff


46 cj2a

51 Willys p/u
'51 Willys Parkway Conversion
'74 CJ5
'75 J-20 Wrecker
'75 J-20 Cummins service bed
'77 J-10 p/u
'79 Cherokee
'88 Grand Wagoneer
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/jeffaber/
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-23-2011, 09:07 PM
fullsizejeepfreak's Avatar
fullsizejeepfreak fullsizejeepfreak is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 13, 2010
Location: Santa Fe
Posts: 129
mine has 2 green wires, I believe the one on the starter side has a green stripe, that's where I put the start sensing wire, ran the constant hot to the battery side big lug, with the bat. cable. I will check the schematic in my haynes, but I would almost prefer to check the wires at the backside of the fuse block, so I don't have to cut loose all my purdy new wire loom for that. The solenoid is a good option, all that juice in one place! Which lug on the solenoid on yours has the yellow wire?
__________________
87 grand waggy SOLD :-(

99 Suburban 4x4 (wife's DD) 3" lift, dyna pro m/t's
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
D300 finally gettin close. a few ????s fullsizejohn Off-Road FSJ Tech 2 01-21-2009 09:28 AM
You guys selling nice fsj's for under 4gs aren't gettin' enough! ThisGuyUKnow General FSJ Discussion 9 11-10-2008 11:50 AM
Gettin gready to do my hydraulic assist.....But elbastardo Off-Road FSJ Tech 4 02-17-2008 04:36 PM
***just bought it***...think i'm gettin' a reputation... Ristow General FSJ Discussion 24 02-03-2008 08:22 PM
coil gettin hot motorfoot General FSJ Tech 5 05-18-2003 06:28 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
corner corner