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Old 06-03-2017, 11:34 AM
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Dutchman axle shafts bearing failure?

Couple years ago I purchased some dutchman shafts from BJs for the rear waggy D44 that i rebuilt from bare housing. Up until yesterday they've been flawless with a few wheeling trips, no mud or water and about 13k miles of DD duty on 37s and recently 35's on the CJ7.
Well i just grenaded the drivers side wheel bearings and blew out the seal on my way to work. Took a bottle and a half of gear oil to limp home. I thought it was just a seal but when i pulled the axle shaft, a pile of what was left of the bearings spilled out.

This seems like super premature failure. I know everything was surgical clean and well packed with grease on install. Anybody know if Dutchman has been using crap bearings or what? Theres no manufacturer stamp on the bearings whatsoever. Im kinda pissed about it.
Also, im thinking i might have to pull the diff and make sure the carrier and pinion bearings arent full of metal.

Both BJs and Dutchman are closed today.
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Old 06-03-2017, 01:53 PM
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seems your pushing the limits of the axle with 37's on a full size, could be a low quality bearing but may also be the axle housing is bent and loaded extra pressure on the axle shaft and bearing?
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Old 06-03-2017, 03:12 PM
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This is a CJ7 with my waggy axles in it. 37s are good on a light jeep like a CJ with a 44. I havent been beating on it. I'm rocking now. Im leaning towards low qual bearings. The back retainer ring that the seal pushes against failed on both sides from what i can tell. Drivers side fragged, pass side was on its way out with about 1/8" of play in and out on the shaft.
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Lifted/stretched on 36's/4.10 thick gears/spooled rear

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new Built TBI 258/Np435/D300 twin-sticks/Waggy D44's
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Old 06-03-2017, 09:58 PM
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If the destroyed side got really hot.....please replace the axle. I learned the hard way on this. I also struggle to call bearings which you have wheeled on for two years...bad
Seems you may have used them up.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:16 PM
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Things I have learned after running a Waggy 23 rear axle in my LS Scrambler with 35"s:

1. Be prepared to replace bearings yearly.

2. A leaky seal corresponds with twisted splines and a slightly bent shaft. Also yearly...

3. There's no substitute for a full floater.

4. Should have put in a D60.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:41 PM
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It may not be your only problem but crap bearings are a big problem these days. look at your bad bearing and I bet it's a Peer or some other ching chong ding dong brand.

Even Timken can be from Mexico or who knows where now day, same with BCA and most others. I've found SKF to be the best most of the time, US , England , France and Germany.

I will not install a bearing made by slaves in a 3rd world nation . not so much a political statement as I just don't like changing bearings all the time.
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Old 06-06-2017, 07:13 AM
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Cutter, shoot me an email with pics to ryan@bjsoffroad.com and I will check with dutchman
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Old 06-16-2017, 09:39 AM
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Cutter, shoot me an email with pics to ryan@bjsoffroad.com and I will check with dutchman

Thanks brother. Will do.

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email sent with pics. waiting to hear back.
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Lifted/stretched on 36's/4.10 thick gears/spooled rear

'86 CJ-7 Renegade, Restored, original steel.
new Built TBI 258/Np435/D300 twin-sticks/Waggy D44's
37" Super Swampers and lots of goodies!

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