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Old 04-25-2017, 03:59 PM
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So, I am in need of EVERY weather strip gasket on my J 20...
I go to the TGW website and discover that their "master weatherstrip set" includes Generic door seals...not the formed set.
So I inquire with TGW...via email..... and.......after a 2 day no response.....I leave a voicemail because they don't pick up the phone.....EVER.....

Do they somehow know I am going to be a bad customer ...???
Or are they just plain >#@$#%%#@$# not available anymore?


Just curious
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:26 PM
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I got all of them for my J10 from BJ's . they seem fine. probably the same ones as you're looking at there are only one or two manufacturers.

If you're talking about the door seals that go in the window frame they are formed. they look a bit different than the originals but they'll work.

When you're working on 40 year old rigs that aren't that popular or numerous beggars can't be choosers. you kind of take what you get.
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:43 PM
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Never go to team grandwag for ANYTHING unless you want less money and dissapointment

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/Weatherstrip_c_216.html


http://www.bjsoffroad.com/Weatherstr...ks_p_1829.html
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:48 PM
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Not sure I would go that far?

My TGW door seals, and for that mater all of the weather stripping I have bought are much better quality than BJ's. OH!
And I did not have to cut them to fit either.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:22 PM
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Ya they pain for answering the phone. Sometimes has taken me a few days to get someone. Seems earlier is better for me.

But it's worth it when you finally do get someone who's pleasant to talk to.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:43 PM
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In addition to the universal seals,we have the OEM style door seals with molded corners here:

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/search.asp...r+seal&search=



We also now carry the cargo area fixed window seals for the 4-doors.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:44 PM
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Not sure I would go that far?

My TGW door seals, and for that mater all of the weather stripping I have bought are much better quality than BJ's. OH!
And I did not have to cut them to fit either.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=172505
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:09 PM
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http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=182513

Just saying -- they all seem to have their "poorly responsive" moments.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:34 PM
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http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=182513

Just saying -- they all seem to have their "poorly responsive" moments.

One event vs dozens and im sure BJS will fix that issue somethings take time

this took me 2 min using google BTW
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=170934
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=127346
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=172507
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=159669
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=83208
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=166845

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https://www.bbb.org/western-washingt...or-wa-22026067

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https://www.bbb.org/wisconsin/busine...ha-wi-44149021
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:42 PM
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Why the googley moogley do they have vent holes where they're going to fill up with dirt and water?????

Quote:
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In addition to the universal seals,we have the OEM style door seals with molded corners here:

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/search.asp...r+seal&search=



We also now carry the cargo area fixed window seals for the 4-doors.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:07 AM
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Those are to allow air to escape and the doors to close quickly and easily. The original Jeep seals had holes in them as well, in different spots
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:00 AM
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I understand why they have them, I wondered why they are on the outside where they will collect debris rather than the inside or lower edge.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:54 AM
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Window and door weather strip source

Taken from the TEAM GRAND WAGONEER website.....what a joke. Sorry but I need to flex my 1st Amendment rights here.

"....These are better than the Original! You will find that our Exclusive door seals are molded in the corners (unlike the OEM seal which is cut and glued together) and angled perfectly! You can only find these DIRECT FIT, BETTER than Original, Reproduction Seal here at TEAM GRAND WAGONEER. This Kit Will Fit The Jeep Grand Wagoneer & Full Size Wagoneers & Full Size 4 Door Cherokees From 1963-1991. This Complete Weatherstrip Kit Comes With Everything That You Could Possibly Ask For (& available) On Your Grand Wagoneer Or Full Size Wagoneer As Far As Weatherstripping Is Concerned!...."


Ok - you have all had your warning. Now can anyone steer me in the direction of weather strip for the fixed glass quarter window in the rear doors ? I lack these two pieces to finish the entire glass install on my 67 Super.
Thanks.
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:42 AM
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I have no opinion about TGW but I can provide a mini review of weatherstriping from bj's.
I live in a rainy area and I always find a small pond at the floor of my J20. I mounted weatherstriping from bj's and still get a (smaller) pond on the floor.
There is a small gap in the weatherstriping between the window and the vent window were the water leaks in anyway.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:28 AM
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Distordera, is yours a 1979 or earlier? If so, those models will have a small gap at the upper vent window hinge as the replacement seals were designed based on a 1980-later model. We have a 1979-down version in the works that should eliminate that gap.
Also, did you clean out the fresh air intake behind the left and right kick-panels? That is a MAJOR source for water leaks in the FSJ.
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Old 05-01-2017, 06:03 PM
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Do not order from TGW unless you are 1000% sure the parts are going to fit. I have a '65 and the door seals are the kind you have to glue to the door. I had hoped the later would fit but no... they will not return your call, they will not answer your email... 100% they'll leave you hangin'.

It was so bad that I reported them to the BBB after months of ignoring my requests for a return. They couldn't even get a reply out of them. The claim on the site that they guarantee returns is a BIG FAT LIE.

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Old 05-02-2017, 03:50 AM
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Distordera, is yours a 1979 or earlier? If so, those models will have a small gap at the upper vent window hinge as the replacement seals were designed based on a 1980-later model. We have a 1979-down version in the works that should eliminate that gap.
Also, did you clean out the fresh air intake behind the left and right kick-panels? That is a MAJOR source for water leaks in the FSJ.

It's an '81.
I sat in the truck with the door panels of and let my wife spray the truck with water and it was then I saw that water is leaking between the stripes for the side window and the vent window.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:46 AM
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The new seals should have solved that issue. Is your latch not pulling it tight? Can you take a short video and email it to me at ryan@bjsoffroad.com?
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:07 AM
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I'm cornfused.

How does the door seal have an effect on a leak between the window and vent window?
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:51 AM
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Glad they're not just picking on me! They never answer my calls or reply to my vmail or email. They sent me the wrong carpet color. I'll go the route of letting the BBB know my issues and see if I can get anything out of them.
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