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Old 06-22-2010, 10:13 AM
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Rusty's 4" Lift Kit - Rear Shocks

Just an FYI for those that may be installing a Rusty's lift on an FSJ...

The shocks provided with the kit have fitment problems on the rear. The larger diameter of the shock body prevents them from being bolted to the rear axle without interfering with the axle tube. You'll have the same problem with pretty much any aftermarket heavy duty shock unless you rotate the shock mounts upward. I ended up using BDS shocks which have a smaller OD just to keep the job a "bolt-on".

What was Rusty's solution to this problem? To summarize...
"Bolt the shock to the lower (axle) mount first and then force it up and attach it to the upper mount. The shock body will bend to conform to the axle tube."
Sounds like a piss poor solution to me. I've seen many a shock eye snapped off in this fashion, especially when you get into axle wrap. Rusty's claims they will warranty them regardless, but that is small consolation when you're in the woods.

I told them I didn't want the shocks. They said I could not have a refund, only store credit. Next time I buy one of their kits as a "bolt-on", I won't be getting their shocks.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:54 AM
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Good to know. I will be going with the skyjacker 4" lift kit when I can afford it.
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:55 PM
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I hear you - I see this with alot of shock manufacturers.
I don't like it either.
I mounted my shock upside down in the rear.
I have also seen the front shocks get small indentations/dents to mount them also.
Great engineering KNOT.

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For how many years have these vehicles been around and they still can't make a shock that mounts up correctly. Sick.
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:11 PM
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Mount them upside down and relocate the mounts when you can.
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:22 PM
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"Mount them upside down and relocate the mounts "
I hear that, but I have heard that manufacturers will attempt to VOID the warranty if thay are mounted incorrectly. GOTTA LOVE IT Sucks
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:25 PM
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"Mount them upside down and relocate the mounts "
I hear that, but I have heard that manufacturers will attempt to VOID the warranty if thay are mounted incorrectly. GOTTA LOVE IT Sucks

Doesn't sound like you got much of a warranty to begin with....

I did the rusty lift but used Rancho shockes (9000RS) I don't remember having an issue but it has been years...
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Old 06-22-2010, 07:33 PM
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Mount them upside down and relocate the mounts when you can.

If you do that, the shocks will hydraulic and will ride extremely stiff...how do I know this?..because my kit didn't have any instructions, and I put the rear shocks in upside down (because of the clearance) and it rode horrible...flipped them around and it was much, much better.
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I'll probably be going with the rustys 4in lift and some Rancho Rs 5000's. I'd go with the BJ's 4in lift but it's way to expensive. I just hope the rustys lift is as good a quality and works well.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:40 PM
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prime example rear shocks mounted upside down.
http://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/1805076011.html

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see i love rustys and with there shocks mount them upside down thats what i did and it works just the same.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:25 PM
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I'll probably be going with the rustys 4in lift and some Rancho Rs 5000's. I'd go with the BJ's 4in lift but it's way to expensive. I just hope the rustys lift is as good a quality and works well.

Rustys has 1 of the best lifts out in my eyes ive been useing them for 4years now and to me bjs lift doesnt ride as well to me.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:32 PM
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Rustys has 1 of the best lifts out in my eyes ive been useing them for 4years now and to me bjs lift doesnt ride as well to me.

Well the price is alot better and all the kit lacks is a drop pitman arm so I'm gonna go for the Rusty's I've heard they ride a bit stiff at first but once the springs break in they ride pretty darn good. I'm lookin forward to getting them and getting my heep a little higher off the deck.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:41 PM
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I have rusty's 4in lift and the shocks fit fine.like the way it rides.
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I also have one and the ride is on the stiff side. I didn't have any issues with the rear shocks though.
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Old 12-24-2010, 09:38 AM
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Long as the shocks are only oil filled like most cheap shocks you can get away with mounting upside down, You can't do that with gas shocks.
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Just my opinion, but the shock tabs hang way to low anyway. Lift kits are installed for increased clearance, and it's almost scary how poorly the stock tabs are welded on anyway. In less than an hour you can grind off, rotate, and reweld the tabs on level with the bottom of the axle. This also provides more down travel. Sounds like a win win to me.
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Old 12-24-2010, 01:53 PM
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Long as the shocks are only oil filled like most cheap shocks you can get away with mounting upside down, You can't do that with gas shocks.


That must explain why I had issues with them upside down and others don't.

I forgot to add this, but I didn't have any clearance issues on my J10 at all.
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:40 PM
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This is mostly an issue with J-Trucks and waggies with AMC20 rear axles. The D44's had slightly different shock mounts on the axle.

I have this same issue with Rancho's on my J10. But my Cherokee was fine.

But do NOT mount them upside down if the are gas shocks and you want them to work properly.
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