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Old 01-25-2020, 11:10 AM
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Hey Dave, no worries. Thanks for your concern. In this thread I'am showing the way I have decided to tackle rebuilding my Wagon. Please don't take anything in this thread as the right way to build a Wagon. With that said, I dug around on the web a little and this is what I came up with in five minutes of searching.

(Some safety experts advise having seat belts inspected and possibly replaced after 10 to 15 years of use.)
According to this one statement, a car as new as 2005 could have seat belts that won't function as designed.

(Seat belts, like car seats and air bags, are considered by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to be single-use items. Seat belts are designed to work just once -- protecting and immobilizing a passenger in the event of a crash.)

When is the last time you had an insurance company adjuster recommend replacing a seat belt after a crash, for me, NEVER.
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Fuel Tank, Red Holley Fuel Pump, Razor Grill (profile pic out dated), Rebuilt steering box

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Old 01-25-2020, 11:28 AM
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I could be wrong, but I'am willing to take the chance. Me dipping my seat belts in 170 degree water with soap, dye, and vinegar for 20 minutes won't make them any worse than they were before dyeing. Or any worse than any other 42 year old seat belt in most cars.
Try and get one of these rigs certified to pass today's safety standards. Now your talking about a 100,000 rig!
My conclusion, the belts will be good enough in a wreck of 15 to 20 mph. The whole Wagon is not a safe vehicle to get in a wreck over thirty miles an hour.
Okay, back to having fun!!!!!!!!!!!
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401/turbo 400 trans. Quadra-Trac BW1339 (with Low) 4" Rusty's lift with 31" Summit Mud Dawgs

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Fuel Tank, Red Holley Fuel Pump, Razor Grill (profile pic out dated), Rebuilt steering box
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Old 01-25-2020, 12:58 PM
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Is it just me, or do the Google Drive images not show?


I like what you're doing and want to follow along.
Yeah. Mine are disappearing too. In my case it's an interface problem between Google Drive and gdurl.com that makes the direct links. sigh...
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Old 01-25-2020, 05:04 PM
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I agree with all you said about the belts,
especially when you said, the whole vehicle is not safe to begin with !!!,......

just last night, I told someone that I had viewed the safety crash test video of a wagoneer, I then said, if you are in a substantial accident, especially head on
in a wagoneer, you will probably die.

in one discussion
we were remembering how we have always bragged how our old cars held up better in a fender bender vs. new cars

and one guy said, the vehicles used to hold up good in wrecks,....
now the people do.

P.S. how about tire guidelines
how they can't sell them after a few years
and I have seen old farm trucks with decades old tires still doing their thing.
and I have some classics myself with old tires on them
and I still take them out on the highway.....

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Old 01-27-2020, 01:06 PM
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The guy with my seats called me today and said my seats were done. This dude don't mess around. I think he had it two weeks. It might be a little bold for some, but I like it.
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Fuel Tank, Red Holley Fuel Pump, Razor Grill (profile pic out dated), Rebuilt steering box
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Old 01-27-2020, 01:06 PM
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Old 01-27-2020, 01:09 PM
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I thought I had at least another week or two of time to finish the carpet before the seats would be back.
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401/turbo 400 trans. Quadra-Trac BW1339 (with Low) 4" Rusty's lift with 31" Summit Mud Dawgs

Mods:
Fuel Tank, Red Holley Fuel Pump, Razor Grill (profile pic out dated), Rebuilt steering box

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Old 01-27-2020, 02:33 PM
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The guy with my seats called me today and said my seats were done. This dude don't mess around. I think he had it two weeks. It might be a little bold for some, but I like it.
Me, too. Those look great! I'm a pretty reserved person and those aren't too bold for my taste. Looks like a factory scheme, but a little upscale. Craftsmanship looks good, too.
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:11 PM
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Those seats look awesome! Definitely won't look out of place!
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Old 01-27-2020, 06:29 PM
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Me, too. Those look great! I'm a pretty reserved person and those aren't too bold for my taste. Looks like a factory scheme, but a little upscale. Craftsmanship looks good, too.
Whole heartedly agree! Those seats are AMAZING!! They totally match the theme of your truck (a slightly more sporty version of the original). Wow! My seats used to be my favorite patterns of any seats on here but now, They are my second favorite. Wow those look good, Darin!
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Old 01-27-2020, 09:25 PM
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REALLY nice work here!. I remain in awe of how quickly your getting this back together. My build definitely feels like the tortoise to your hare.

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Old 01-27-2020, 09:52 PM
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It is coming together a lot quicker than I thought it would. I go out and work on it every day, even if it is only for a short period of time. Thanks all.
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401/turbo 400 trans. Quadra-Trac BW1339 (with Low) 4" Rusty's lift with 31" Summit Mud Dawgs

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Old 01-28-2020, 02:05 PM
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Doing a very similar start! live in the salt belt however so the rust is quite a bit more extensive, ill be following your thread as well to keep up on how youre doing and to get ideas on how to further my own as well. Looks like youre quite knowledgeable as well, hope the best!
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:04 PM
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Holy smokes! those seats are on fire! 195% cool
Looks like great work there. SMS took 10 months to get Sadies seat covers done. And they did not fit. You found a great upholstery guy. Better keep his number.
The seat belt dying was really cool also. RIT is amazing stuff. So the color was black azabache? As in Black azabache seat?
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:17 PM
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I love those seats!
Now you just need a red dash pad to go with them.
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:29 AM
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I am in absolute awe of what you have done with this build. Its definitely set a level of standard that i can only hope to achieve one day, picked up another vehicle to have as a daily so i dont have to worry about down time with mine once i get shop space. Your build is amazing, and your process of learning everything as you go is going to be pretty similar to my build. Ill make sure to keep my build thread as thorough as yours is, and yours will be a reference for mine for the ENTIRE process lol.
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:11 PM
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I haven't had much time lately and just caught up on your build. Holy smokes! Seriously awesome work.

To bold on the seats? I think not. They are great.
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Old 02-01-2020, 11:54 PM
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Been working on getting the seats in. Just about done, just the drivers seat left to get in.
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401/turbo 400 trans. Quadra-Trac BW1339 (with Low) 4" Rusty's lift with 31" Summit Mud Dawgs

Mods:
Fuel Tank, Red Holley Fuel Pump, Razor Grill (profile pic out dated), Rebuilt steering box
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Old 02-01-2020, 11:56 PM
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Arm rest in.
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Old 02-01-2020, 11:59 PM
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