2014 Grand Wagoneer
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Nooooooo! Why does it have to be based on the Durango! The Durango traded its pants for a skirt on this last body style, with the independent rear suspension and whatnot.
I just read an article on the 2014 Cherokee (no Grand in that title) which replaces the Liberty. It didnt say what axles or suspension it had, tho1980 Jeep J-20
1979 Jeep J-10 Honcho
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
1975 Jeep Wagoneer- The Green Bastard, from Parts
Unknown
1968 Plymouth Satellite
1978 Camaro- back in action
1980 'Vette. Chevette. Please someone buy this
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Originally posted by the original HonchoNooooooo! Why does it have to be based on the Durango! The Durango traded its pants for a skirt on this last body style, with the independent rear suspension and whatnot.
I just read an article on the 2014 Cherokee (no Grand in that title) which replaces the Liberty. It didnt say what axles or suspension it had, tho
As far as the cherokee, that will ride on a modified dart chassis.1985 Grand Wagoneer-360/727/229/D44/AMC20
2011 Mazdaspeed 3
2012 Focus
2000 Camaro
1995 Mustang
2009 GSXR-600
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The new grand cherokees have gone through the rubicon. They had some dents and dings, but they did it. The platform is more than capable, possibly more capable than a stock waggy. Besides jtrucks are cooler everyone has a waggy.Pierce,
77 J10 454, TH400, D20,
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Just so long as they don't take styling cues from the new "Cherokee"...Jeep Grounds
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Texas Full Size Jeep Association
1987 Grand Wagoneer
AMC 360/TF727/NP229
1999 Wrangler Sport
4.0L/AX-15/NV231
?Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction? by Ronald Reagan.
Formerly of DFW/Gun Barrel City, TX - eventually to return...
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I took a stock wagoneer through a local trail years ago. Pushing and rock stacking kept me from body damage but not from a crushed tail pipe.
I bet one of these new jeep Cherokee's could walk through it.82 Cherokee WT ? SFwith Alcan/agr box/Borgeson shaft/ 401/performer/Holley TA/HEI/BeCool/727/ALTAS(2.0/2.72/5.44)/D60 Snofighter(Yukon Zip,hubs,stubs,4.56)/14 Bolt (FF,BF shave,Discs, ARB,Artec Truss)/MTR 37/Corbeau Moab Seats /Hella/tuffy console/sliders/custombumpers&roll bar/WARN 8000/steering brace/CO2 Tank/dual batts/custom TCskid plate
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By the time you made it thru, it'd have to walk...ifs if not fully independent!Jeep Grounds
RRV Homepage
Texas Full Size Jeep Association
1987 Grand Wagoneer
AMC 360/TF727/NP229
1999 Wrangler Sport
4.0L/AX-15/NV231
?Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction? by Ronald Reagan.
Formerly of DFW/Gun Barrel City, TX - eventually to return...
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Okay here's goes.....
I never thought jeep has ever had an issue with power and capability, my opinion is that lately their issues are more related to class and sensibility. By that I mean, if you are going to build a vehicle that is capable off road as well as comfort on road, take your time and pay attention to the details. That is what brought success to the early wagoneers. Nobody says it has to resemble the old body style but the masses are begging for some Yank to knock Land Rover of it's pedestal. The new Laredo is nice but is BY far nowhere near a Range Rover HSE.
My uneducated run down of the mechanics. Please bare with me. The Hemi is a fabulous power plant and would be perfect for the new jeep. Jeep has always been wise in the ways of suspension, differentials and transfer cases. So if there is a way to finess the rage of the Hemi into a package that marries the savage of the Dana 44s and a beefyT-case but still is practical for my wife to drive GO FOR IT. Please! But for God's sakes have some class and refinement.
The details are things like wind shield wipers and door handles and gadgets. The Bose system was a nice touch but the plastic buttons married to a cheap dash board kills the interior. Why not make room for the 6'5 passenger in the back seat as well as his 3 large suit cases. My point is that if equal attention was give to the small things as they have the Dana 44s and Hemis we (the US) would have a few more Newer Jeeps with foreign plates. Say what you will but that matters.
My parting sentiment is that I would stack my 73 Waggy against any like vehicle of the same era and have no worries at all. I can't say that today if I had a luxury jeep and I want to!!
Oh one last thing... I wonder if the Gand Wagoneers we will start see in adds will be from the Wagon Master?
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Looks pretty good in that photo.N4ZYV
I ain't giving up. I've worked hard, it took me years to work my way to the bottom.
1998 Cherokee Sport (not maroon! Have history with maroon XJs)
1937 Chevy pickup (in progress)
1966 Mustang
1937 IH D2
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Originally posted by LindelJust so long as they don't take styling cues from the new "Cherokee"...
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Originally posted by kntemplarsThe details are things like wind shield wipers and door handles and gadgets. The Bose system was a nice touch but the plastic buttons married to a cheap dash board kills the interior. Why not make room for the 6'5 passenger in the back seat as well as his 3 large suit cases. My point is that if equal attention was give to the small things as they have the Dana 44s and Hemis we (the US) would have a few more Newer Jeeps with foreign plates. Say what you will but that matters.
Jeep can easily build something to spank Land Rover. They definitely have the mechanicals for it. The SRT-8 proves that. Here's hoping they finally pay attention to what the "Top Gear" blokes have been saying about US cars for all these years.It's not an SUV. It's an SEV: Surface Exploration Vehicle.
'76 Cherokee NT
360/T-18
Trailers belong behind trucks, not under them.
Why? Because nobody in the history of 'wheeling has ever said, "good thing I put those smaller tires on my rig."
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The new "CHEROKEE" is Butt UGLY.Jennifer: 89 GW 360/727/D44 2"lift 31" BF KM2
Harriett: 97 chevy 2500 ext cab P/U 6.5 TD
Lorraine: 73 Datsun 240z
07 Colorado
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Originally posted by frank_cYeah. After seeing that, I don't have much hope for a new GW.Project: 1979 Wagoneer 360, Turbo 400, Q-Track, and Dana 44's
Lovingly refereed to as the "The Wagon"...
Daily Driver: 2008 Jeep Commander Rocky Mountain Edition 4.7L, Q-Trac II
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Have any of you guys been in the 2013 grand cherokee? The details are there.... they've gone a long way to improve the interior. You still get a less amounts of soft touch materials for the lower trim models but that's to be expected on a vehicle that spans such a large spectrum. Chrysler has come a long way in the past 2-3 years.1985 Grand Wagoneer-360/727/229/D44/AMC20
2011 Mazdaspeed 3
2012 Focus
2000 Camaro
1995 Mustang
2009 GSXR-600
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