Closed or open loop idle???

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  • FSJ Guy
    • Mar 20, 2005
    • 10061

    Closed or open loop idle???

    Pros and cons of running closed loop idle???? I think most systems are set to run open loop, but why? Any advantage or running closed loop?
    Ethan Brady
    1987 Grand Wagoneer, slightly longer than stock.

    www.bigscaryjeep.com

    Don't mess with me. I once killed a living hinge.
  • Bill USN-1
    258 I6
    • Nov 11, 2006
    • 360

    #2
    Actually most newer engines designed for EFI are closed loop idle.
    The older engines like the IH and the AMC seem to like a little more fuel then 14.7:1 for a smooth idle.
    So I normally tune for about a 124-126 BLM and once tuned I go to an open loop idle.
    This gives a nice steady idle without the lean "roll" that can occur when in closed loop.


    If you have a cam with overlap then open loop will be required to maintain a steady idle.
    The raw fuel dumped into the exhaust confuses the feedback loop.
    Bill USN-1
    Fuel Injection Moderator at BinderPlanet
    Hamilton Fuel Injection
    75 scout XLC 345/727/JPD300/3.73's/33's/4wdisc/hydroboost/EFI/OBA/OBW
    1977 Innocenti 1001 (Italian Mini)EFI 1275/DIS

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    • JeepsAndGuns
      AMC 4 OH! 1
      • Jul 18, 2003
      • 4586

      #3
      My idle is closed loop, it was that way stock in the bin I am using. It seems to idle just fine. I think my old 7747 was closed loop idle too.
      Mabey one day I will play with that setting and see if it changes anything. I know my idle got a better when I swapped to the 7427 pcm.
      79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
      Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
      93 Wrangler 4.6 stroker/AX15/NP231,SYE,CV, OME 2.5 lift, front hub conversion/big brakes, 31X10.50's Warn M10000 winch.

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