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Old 12-13-2019, 11:12 PM
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I've been working on the inner wheel well and hope to get some pictures taken and posting some details about it when I have a little more time but this evening my wife and I put together a passenger for the rocking chair and I just had to post about it.


It all began with the idea that we needed to make a Santa to go in the chair, after all it is the holiday season. So the other day my wife bought a Santa outfit on Amazon and mentioned making a frame out of PVC pipe. So yesterday I stopped by the hardware store and bought a couple of sticks of 3/4 inch PVC and some couplings.


At work today I cut up the pipe to make a skeleton for Santa and after dinner we set to work assembling him.



First we put the skeleton together and checked the fit.



Not bad but needed some minor adjustments.


Then we clothed and stuffed him and set him in the chair.



To top it off I used a red cargo strap screwed to the chair to secure him and a necklace of Christmas lights I got from the dollar store and the look is complete.


I'm sure I will have to deal with some issues of securing an what not but I don't think it's too bad for a cheap quick Santa just for fun.


I should note that there was a thing on the news the other day about driving with Christmas lights and the Highway patrol said it is illegal to drive with any kind of blinking lights so I will be setting them to not blink when driving
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:49 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!! That is SOOOOooo awesome!!!!! You should give him a coffee mug (with simulated warm spiced cider in it) or a hard cider bottle in one hand! My goodness this is awesome! I can't wait to show my son when he wakes up!
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:57 PM
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OK as promised I am trying to take the time to write all about my activities this past week...or two.


As you know I cut out the inner wheel well panel and have been fabbing up new ones. I decided the right thing to do is remove the upper weld flange as well and fab a new flange, which got quite complicated.


The wheel well is not actually just an arch it is actually quite flat on top with varying degrees of arch throughout it's length. My original plan was to cut some strips of 16ga steel, bend then into a 90 degree angle then use the shrinker-streatcher to curve it around. I have to admit I'm not very good with a shrinker-streatcher but the complicated varying curve made it too difficult for me so I resorted to plan B.


Plan B was to bend the 90 just like before but this time cut slits in one side every inch or so then use the shrinker to make the curve.







This allowed some flexibility to the angle so it could be made to match the curve of the existing wheel arch.


So then I had this




which I then took home and carefully fit to the truck. I began by taking self tapping screws and screwing the inner panel to the bottom of the bed, then screwed the flange to the arch then the flange to the inner panel. Then removed it and took it back to work.





It sounds simple but there were several days of back and forth, trimming, dent straightening, screwing, unscrewing and so forth and of course cleaning and prepping for welding. Eventually I was happy with it and took everything to work to weld together. I try to only do my welding on the weekends because the tool room guy can get kind of annoyed at me for having stuff in his way. So I bring it all in last Saturday and discover that there are no parts for the TIG welder. After searching high and low and not being able to find them I eventually asked someone who would know. He told me that someone on another shift had been in there trying to learn to TIG weld and had basically destroyed the lenses and cups and other things rendering the TIG un-usable


So not to be deterred I ordered a lens/collet/cup kit from Amazon but had to wait two whole days to get it Eventually I got it but not until Tuesday, so I had to wait until today to actually get to use it...well actually I did a little bit of tack welding Friday morning before the tool room person came in.


Then today I had some free time so I set to work on welding the flange to the inner panel. I could have just tack welded it on and called it good but I want to seal it up and have it completely welded which makes it much more time consuming because I now need to weld every one of those slits I made every inch or so but I spent all of my free time slowly working away at it and am now probably a little more than half done.








Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to find the time to finish them so while I'm off over the next week I can get them installed and welded in place.
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Old 12-15-2019, 08:15 PM
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I found the time to finish TIG welding the new inner panels today.






There was a little warping but nothing too bad, especially considering the amount of welding that was done



Once I got them home I checked the fit one more time












There are a few more minor things to do before I can weld them into place but I'm pretty happy with them right now and figure once I get them in they should last another 48 years before needing it done again.
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:34 PM
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The other day I finally got this





When I got my truck it had 3 hubcaps. I got a replacement set of caps but the right front wheel has never been correct and won't hold a hubcap. That is why whenever you see a picture of the passengers side it doesn't have one. Now although my understanding of things is limited I understanding is that the '72 and later wheels are different than '71 and earlier because of wheel rivets and you need '72 and later wheels if you want to upgrade to disc brakes, or you have to grind on brand new expensive calipers to make them clear. It doesn't really matter at the moment but some day I might think about upgrading to disc brakes so I wanted the correct wheels.



So I've been kind of looking for a replacement wheel since I bought the truck. Then one day one of the guys I work with told me he had one in storage somewhere back east and he would get it for me the next time he went.


Well that next time was this past week, he returned Monday with a Christmas gift of a new (to me) 1973 Jeep wheel Now I need to swap it over, get it balanced and buy a spare tire for the old one.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:06 PM
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really nice TIG work there. I have welder's envy.

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Old 12-19-2019, 01:48 PM
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really nice TIG work there. I have welder's envy.

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Thank you. I had never used a TIG before last May but it is so easy to use. I like it much better than the MIG I bought. I grew up doing a lot of stick and gas welding, the TIG is a lot like welding with a torch so it was an easy transition, although I do often have a problem with keeping the heat on the parts a little too long.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:25 PM
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The other day I began welding in the right wheel well and after about 3 inches of welding ran out of wire My plan was to run up to Lowe's and buy another roll but didn't get around to it for a few days because I'm off work and the number one and two things on my to-do list are napping and being lazy Unfortunately things need to get done and since "Eat huge breakfasts" is the number three thing on my to-do list and I used up all of the eggs making creme brulee we had to go to the store. We also had to do the last of the Christmas shopping and somehow our route took us right past Airgas. So instead of going to Lowe's I whipped in there and picked up a couple of spools of wire, which were actually cheaper than Lowe's. So today after a big breakfast and a nap I set to work once again on welding in the RH wheel well. That is actually going extremely well. I'm doing full seam welds instead of spot welds so it is taking a bit more time and effort than tack welds.
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Old 12-23-2019, 01:15 AM
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Shortly after posting yesterday I was working on the wheel well and getting close to finished when I ran out of shielding gas and since by the time I ran out Airgas was closed I now have to wait til Monday to get a new bottle. In the mean time today I ground down the welds I did yesterday. There are still some areas that need welded but it isn't coming out too badly.



So here are some pictures of how it looks today


Top side




Bottom side




and a close up of one of the welds on the bottom side



Now the plan for tomorrow is to eventually find my way to Airgas, get a new bottle of shielding gas then Tuesday or Wednesday finish with the Right wheel well and start on the left. Once that is done I can build the paint booth around the bed and hopefully shoot the under side.
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Old 12-23-2019, 10:53 AM
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looks great cranky !
nice welding.

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Old 12-24-2019, 12:52 PM
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looks great cranky !
nice welding.

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Thank you. I think my welding isn't too bad considering I haven't MIG welded in 30 years and am using the cheapest Lincoln MIG you can buy.


I didn't manage to get to Airgas yesterday and likely won't today, so there won't be any progress for a few more days. I go back to work the 26th so I will probably just bring the bottle with me and exchange it after work then,
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:51 PM
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Last Friday I made it to Airgas to refill my little bottle. Santa is still on the back of the truck and it's hilarious to watch other drivers around me. Most of them are scared of it and hang way back until one of them gets brave and decides to take a chance and pass me, then a whole bunch of them tear around me as fast as they can. Some wait until they get to a light to dare to go around and some just laugh and give me a thumbs up Santa will be coming off tomorrow.


Anyway. Friday I made it to air gas and they asked me if I would like to upgrade my bottle from the 20 cubic ft bottle to the 40. I told him I'd like to but can't afford it. He said it is only $15 plus the gas. My wife had made the mistake of giving me a hundred dollar bill a couple days before so I whipped that out and said "sounds good to me". So now I can weld twice as long and only go back half as often.



With my new gas bottle I finished the right wheel well and began prepping the left. Today I started welding the left one in. That has gone much smoother than the right and is about 75% complete. Hopefully soon I will get the primer and under coat on and get ready for the bedliner.
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Happy new year everybody! Welcome to 2020, I can see clearly now
Santa is no longer in the back of the truck...wasn't that a scene in Scrooge? The ghost of Christmas future tells scrooge "...If things don't change I see a vacant chair on the back of a Jeep pickup..."



Don't worry I have other hilarious things planned for the chair



On Dec 30th I ran out of welding gas again So another trip to airgas was in order on new years eve. I got that and finished all the welding and began grinding down the welds.



Then my cheap harbor freight grinder that I got in a box lot of grinders at an auction decided to quit. This doesn't sound like a big deal and in truth it shouldn't have been but like everything in my life it had to turn into one



I have several other grinders that came in the box lot but each one has a different kind of wheel. One has a cutting wheel, another a finer, thinner grinding wheel and a third is set up with sanding discs. The disc on the grinder that broke is thick with a curved edge that is the exact curve I want for the inside where the wheel well meets the floor. So I kind of needed to get this wheel off and put it on another onehgfdsawq so everything matches what I've already done. Of course it couldn't a simple matter of push the button, take the mandrel loose and remove the disc. To begin with since the gears stripped out now the button that locks the mandrel wouldn't hold it so I tried a pair of vice grips which seemed to work OK, except the last person to install the disc was a gorilla and I couldn't get it loose. So yesterday I wound up taking the grinder to work, using a one sided chisel, intended for cutting the heads off of rivets, to cut the heads off the screws holding the grinder head on, then clamping the shaft into a vice and using a big pipe wrench to unscrew the mandrel. I now have the disc on a different grinder and am all ready to go, as soon as I find the time.



Just a little more welding and a lot more grinding, sanding and cleaning and I will be ready to prime and under coat the bed and bedliner the inside.
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That will be awesome, great work on the bed so far and love the rocking chair+santa LOL!

I recently did the floor of my truck on my back scraping and brushing the floor clean then painting it. Dont really want to do it that way next time. I have from the back of the cab to the front of the truck done but i think i will do like you have done and take off the box to pain the underside of it and do the rear frame and axle
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That will be awesome, great work on the bed so far and love the rocking chair+santa LOL!

I recently did the floor of my truck on my back scraping and brushing the floor clean then painting it. Dont really want to do it that way next time. I have from the back of the cab to the front of the truck done but i think i will do like you have done and take off the box to pain the underside of it and do the rear frame and axle




Thank you.


Removing the bed really isn't very hard and it makes it so much easier to access everything.
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The wheel wells are all done and ready for paint but something else has been eating at me for a long time now. As much work as I have in it I just can't accept that center floor seam, it looks terrible and is uneven and I don't think bedliner will fill it in enough that I will be happy. It's been eating away at me ever since I got the truck back.


So here is what it looked like this morning, it might be hard to tell but the seam in in a low section (valley) that is a little less than double the width of the rest of the valleys.




You can't really see it in the picture but from the low point on the left going right it raises up over the top of the piece on the right and makes a hump then a sudden drop at the weld down probably 1/4 of an inch. I tried to save it and convince myself that it was good enough but it isn't and I didn't know what to do.


Then last night an idea came out of nowhere and I think I have a solution. I realized I still had a section of 16ga steel 4 ft long and about 12" wide left over from doing the wheel wells. I figured this would be enough to fabricate a single raised section 8ft long. So I made a cardboard template of what a ridge and valley measure as well as the seam valley. I then subtracted the length of one chamfer (Legs? or whatever they are called) and divided that into 3 equal parts. This gave me 2 equal valleys and one ridge in the middle. I then carefully cut the metal on a band saw, measured for the chamfers and bent them in the break we have at work. That gave me this






That is actually a pretty close match to the proper ridges only slightly narrower but not enough that it is really noticeable. They are also close enough to each other that welding the two 4ft pieces together to make an 8ft piece will be easy.





At that point I had to consider how I am going to attach it. I considered just welding it over the top of the seam as a cover but it would be difficult to treat inside, not impossible but I would worry about hidden rust. The lap seam was also problematic so I figured the best thing to do was just cut out that whole lap seam. So after checking the fit and making sure it will look right I marked where it will be welded in and set to work with a cutoff wheel...until the wheel wore out. Then I resorted to the sawzall...until I broke my last blade for that. So then I resorted to a grinder which didn't work as well but did work. Now it looks like this






The cutouts get rid of the unevenness and let me get to the back side to prime and paint. I still have one more section to cut out but that shouldn't be a problem once I get some new cutoff wheels, then I can weld the new ridge in and it should look like it belongs there.
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I just spent my weekend doing very little truck wise. My wife and I binge watched Good Omans on Amazon, it's a great movie/series. I read the book so many years ago that I can barely remember it but it seemed to match what little I do remember.


Just about the time the movie was over the door bell rang with a delivery of an old lady mask my wife had ordered




So we went to work making my new rocking chair passenger.



Over the past week or two she has ordered a dummy



and a dress as well as the mask so today we had the final piece to make a Granny so we did and put her in the rocker. We did have to add the PVC spine, shoulders, and hips I had made for Santa but that was easy enough.






For shoes I simply used an old worn out pair of my work boots and Granny was complete





It's actually kind of creepy how real she looks.
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AS I SCROLLED DOWN
THE GRANNY MASK CLOSE UP
SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME !

you got me cranky.

that is even better than Santa.

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I think I would soil myself if i came across that in a dark parking lot!! Who needs a car alarm with that in your rig?!
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