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  • wiley-moeracing
    350 Buick
    • Feb 15, 2010
    • 1430

    #31
    Me too, a lot of work and money by the time you get done, I hope it is worth it.

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    • jcisworthy
      232 I6
      • Apr 01, 2016
      • 43

      #32
      Don't expect big gains with this mod, it is just an excellent option when upgrading your rockers.

      Not very difficult or expensive in the end.

      I have pictures of a mini shaft installation but they will not upload here

      How small does a file need to be here? I resized to 331kb

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      • babywag
        out of order
        • Jun 08, 2005
        • 10284

        #33
        Originally posted by jcisworthy
        Don't expect big gains with this mod, it is just an excellent option when upgrading your rockers.

        Not very difficult or expensive in the end.

        I have pictures of a mini shaft installation but they will not upload here

        How small does a file need to be here? I resized to 331kb
        Agreed rollers are small gains generally WOT high rpms.

        Far as pics. site doesn't allow uploading pics.
        They need to bo hosted elsewhere and linked.
        Tony
        88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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        • Ristow
          • Jan 20, 2006
          • 17292

          #34
          more lift,quicker ratio with no effect on duration. plus a cheap way to get rid of the wore out flimsy and in precise stock rockers. looks like a win to me.


          how much lift is lost on flex of the flimsy amc rocker bridge? i've seen a lot of these that were bent and rounding off the top of the valve. no wonder the guides are always so wore out on these.



          put these on a elgin industries CL912 cam kit and it'll pull hard off idle and rev out well past 5 grand. which means in your automatic equipped ride it'll pull from off idle to shift rpm.
          Originally posted by Hankrod
          Ristows right.................again,


          Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
          ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


          Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
          I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

          It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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          • babywag
            out of order
            • Jun 08, 2005
            • 10284

            #35
            Yep. dunno how accurate 1.6 is on AMC stock rockers?
            Lots of stockers especially Chevy aren't good.
            Supposed to be 1.5, VERY few actually are.
            They also vary quite a bit...
            Might not be an issue w/ AMC but it is on others.

            Like I already stated a couple times...
            Don't care about hp gains
            Don't think it's a bragging point "I've got rollers"

            For me it's about the added lift, stability & consistency.
            Tony
            88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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            • Ristow
              • Jan 20, 2006
              • 17292

              #36
              the lift ratio changes thru the arch with standard design rockers. roller rocker maintain it thru the arch. thats where the gains are.
              Originally posted by Hankrod
              Ristows right.................again,


              Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
              ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


              Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
              I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

              It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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              • JeepsAndGuns
                AMC 4 OH! 1
                • Jul 18, 2003
                • 4586

                #37
                I wonder if there would be any noticeable differences on a most stock engine, as far as power and driveability.
                But a slightly more modded engine (bored out, aftermarket cam, headers, intake, etc..) I wonder if it might be slightly more noticeable.

                Keep us updated on how things go.
                79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
                Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
                93 Wrangler 4.6 stroker/AX15/NP231,SYE,CV, OME 2.5 lift, front hub conversion/big brakes, 31X10.50's Warn M10000 winch.

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                • babywag
                  out of order
                  • Jun 08, 2005
                  • 10284

                  #38
                  So I cannot find my adjustable pushrod...

                  Doing the math 18 tpi is .056 @ 1 full rotation?
                  Which means to obtain .020-.030 = ~1/2turn(.028) after zero lash?
                  Tony
                  88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                  • wiley-moeracing
                    350 Buick
                    • Feb 15, 2010
                    • 1430

                    #39
                    If you can not find a set of bolt in pushrods, then you will have to have set custom made. Maybe the Harlan Sharp, Comp rollers might be worth a look at? I used small block ford comp full rollers with 1.7 ratio in my race motors

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                    • babywag
                      out of order
                      • Jun 08, 2005
                      • 10284

                      #40
                      Originally posted by wiley-moeracing
                      If you can not find a set of bolt in pushrods, then you will have to have set custom made. Maybe the Harlan Sharp, Comp rollers might be worth a look at? I used small block ford comp full rollers with 1.7 ratio in my race motors
                      These are bridged non-adjustable rockers. Simply trying to get a preload measurement.
                      Tony
                      88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                      • jcisworthy
                        232 I6
                        • Apr 01, 2016
                        • 43

                        #41
                        Originally posted by babywag
                        So I cannot find my adjustable pushrod...

                        Doing the math 18 tpi is .056 @ 1 full rotation?
                        Which means to obtain .020-.030 = ~1/2turn(.028) after zero lash?
                        Correct

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                        • pickledtoast
                          232 I6
                          • Feb 13, 2018
                          • 59

                          #42
                          Yes, your math is correct.

                          LS1 rocker puts the pushrod seat .040" lower than the AMC rocker from my '90. The AMC rocker ratio measured 1.605, LS rocker 1.715. That's just straight measuring the rocker, not the actual valve lift vs lobe lift measured with a test spring (my engine is still in pieces).

                          I'm going with the summit K8600 camshaft kit which as .080 smaller base circle on exhaust, .050 on the intake. So I may be able to reuse the factory pushrods on the exhaust and compress the lifter .015 more on the intake.

                          But the heads, deck were touched, different brand lifters, who knows how the head gasket thickness matches the oem, so I'll find out when I assemble.

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                          • JeepsAndGuns
                            AMC 4 OH! 1
                            • Jul 18, 2003
                            • 4586

                            #43
                            Curious if anything came of this, or has the project been shelved?
                            79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
                            Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
                            93 Wrangler 4.6 stroker/AX15/NP231,SYE,CV, OME 2.5 lift, front hub conversion/big brakes, 31X10.50's Warn M10000 winch.

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                            • pickledtoast
                              232 I6
                              • Feb 13, 2018
                              • 59

                              #44
                              My engine is together with the factory rockers and pushrods, just changed the oil after break-in. I'll get to swapping in the LS rockers eventually.

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                              • babywag
                                out of order
                                • Jun 08, 2005
                                • 10284

                                #45
                                I have a ton of stuff higher on my list but I will get to it eventually.
                                Tony
                                88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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