Rebuilding a metal Gladiator era Heater Core Box w/ pix (tech)

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  • Gambler68
    Rabble Rouser
    • Feb 29, 2004
    • 14083

    Rebuilding a metal Gladiator era Heater Core Box w/ pix (tech)

    Well it looked ok from the outside, but I wanted to resurface the flappers with neophrene so it wouldn't be blowing hot air during the summer like so many do..they do this because the air flow flaps on the core AND the inner blower box are lined with foam that degrades over time and don't seal. After checking that the vac switches were still good I went ahead and got busy..

    First the inner box. In very nice shape for being 40 years old. Still had the inspection stickers on it.









    Next the heater core box. Simply dumping out the leaves is NOT good enough..you need to open it up. It's easy.


    looks good right?

    ick!

    ack!

    don't lose these. They are the main reason for all the rust gunk in there.

    see how the flapper foam seal is useless at this point from time

    leave the flapper in there and remove the airflow thingy

    scrape it clean with a chisel or whatever

    I used neophrene from a knee brace that was laying around..

    sorry camera was in night mode. But you can see the nice seal now. Do both sides of course.

    look at that NICE clean core. I flushed mine out in the shower and sprayed the fins out with normal pressure hot water. A few good flakes came out and some assorted gunk. Be sure to really get the inside clean and move it around while water is flowing. Re-install pieces in reverse order of disassembling (maybe I should go work for Haynes eh?)



    Inner box got RTV. Didnt bother with the outer seal.

    put back together. Sadly I had to reuse original 1/4" head screws, added some larger ones where they had wallowed out.

    painted! I will add foam to the inlet/outlet and around the fresh air inlet and blower outlet later when I install

    speaking of..does it still work? Yes! Battery jumper with on/off switch confirms.

    paint it black!

    Hope this was helpful to anyone wondering. Early style metal boxes do not swap. That bottom piece on the blower is absent in the later style, so they do not line up if you try and mix and match. I would assume if you replaced the ENTIRE HVAC system (newer style into an older cab) it would work of course..but where's the fun in that. Plastic sucks.
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    1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
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    Hunter S. Thompson .

  • tgreese
    • May 29, 2003
    • 11682

    #2
    Heh. Somehow your write-up reminds me of the Rolling Stones.

    Very nice - thanks for posting.
    Tim Reese
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    • red mistress
      304 AMC
      • Sep 13, 2007
      • 2293

      #3
      heater core

      The heater cores from early years are little different than the new ones.

      Spacing of heater tubes and the thickness of the core.

      Newer heater core can be made to work with carbide cutter, but treasure hunting & finding a NOS one is so much fun.

      I think I need Laura Croft on my treasure hunting team.
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      • #4
        If anyone needs a heater box, blower motor or under dash vent system let me know. I just stripped all of this out mine and don't need it anymore.
        Places to Wheel in the Southeast

        Originally posted by Topgun2mo
        I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
        Originally posted by johnny019
        I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.

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        • budojeepr
          350 Buick
          • Feb 02, 2006
          • 933

          #5
          Somebody "sticky" this!
          Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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          • Gambler68
            Rabble Rouser
            • Feb 29, 2004
            • 14083

            #6
            Originally posted by budojeepr
            Somebody "sticky" this!
            there is a thread stickied for Tech Archives in the index in this forum. If someone deems it worthy, feel free to reply there with a link to this thread.

            Hopefully this thread will help save a few of the old metal boxes! I'm sure rad shops will rebuild them but since its so easy and doesnt take long to rehab it yourself, why spend the $$
            1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
            1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
            The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
            Hunter S. Thompson .

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            • hummer010
              232 I6
              • Jul 26, 2007
              • 192

              #7
              Awesome thread! My heater core, inner box and blower are all out of the truck right now. I was planning to do this very thing in the next little while, so very helpful thread.

              I like the shot of the NBA too - one of my favourites
              68 j3000 327/T18/D20 Work in Progress

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              • fulsizjeep
                Señor Jackhead
                • Aug 21, 2002
                • 22496

                #8
                nice work & documentation
                Flint
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                • men in black
                  AMC 4 OH! 1
                  • Jul 08, 2006
                  • 3521

                  #9
                  X2 on nice write up

                  you needed a couple Newcastles after that.
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                  • skeletor
                    350 Buick
                    • Jan 31, 2006
                    • 1360

                    #10
                    thats amazing that the heater core is still there. when i did mine, half of it had dissolved into mush and the tubes broke off when i touched it. i still whish i had painted the box before i reinstalled it though.
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                    • Lindel
                      Perfesser of Jeepology
                      • Jun 15, 2000
                      • 9205

                      #11
                      The one I slapped in the 79 looked a lot like that before I installed it. I didn't go to the trouble of repainting it, I was doing a quick install to get rid of the gaping hole that was in the fiberglass box.

                      Nice work Ryan!
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                      • SnowShoe
                        350 Buick
                        • Feb 24, 2008
                        • 1296

                        #12
                        Very impressive...may have to make same for mine...

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