looks good to me. looks like a Navigator copy. i dont think the rear window goes down,tailgate looks too narrow under the glass.
2021 Grand Wagoneer Reveal
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Originally posted by HankrodRistows right.................again,
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.
Originally posted by Fasts79ChiefI LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
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Looks like it will stack up nicely against the Escalade, Navigator, etc. Which is what it was designed to do. Not exactly my cup of tea, but looks like the execution is pretty good, which does the Wagoneer nameplate proud.
One nitpicky comment. Wish they'd referenced the original sloped D-pillar in this design. I saw some concept renderings that did that and thought it was unique and differentiated the design from other jumbo SUVs.
But instead they tied it in with the current Jeep Renegade, which I guess is okay if you're trying to make that kink part of your brand's design language, as BMW has. But the most iconic vehicle in the Jeep lineup, the Wranger, doesn't have it, so why bother?
My very rough Photoshop fix:
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Looks like all the other SUVs I won't be able to afford until they are 40 years old, barely run, and leak every single fluid they use.
I wish they would have given FSJs a nod. Some emblem, or sticker, or design element that clearly hearkens back to our rigs. They did better with this than Chevy did with Blazer but it's no Bronco (then again, it wasn't meant to be).
I don't hate it but I don't love it either; I'm totally indifferent. It's just going to make searching craigslist/facebook market place that much harder (because now you can't search "Wagoneer" and be assured what you find will be tied to our rigs) just like Gladiator did.
Babywag made a good point, too; this Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer WILL make our rigs go up in value some. So that's good. Well, maybe not the Cherokees and trucks but the FSJ Wagos/Grand Wagos for sure.Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
(Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
(Cherokee Build Thread)
11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
00 Baby Cherokee
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Meh...
I would have surprised myself had I liked this Jeep. I get that I don't represent the current market.
Electric everything makes me gag.
The price tag should be on a house, not a car. I just hope the new owners
of these Jeeps can enjoy them without visiting the shop every other month.
The only thing worse than a garage queen is a shop queen.
p.s. I do like the photoshop fix to the D pillar. Nice touch.Last edited by lkmarsh; 09-03-2020, 08:01 PM.Lyle
Seemed like a good idea at the time...
69 1414x Wagoneer 350/TH400 DD & Ski Ride
68 Chevelle wagon 350/BWT50
68 Impala wagon 327/400
73 Cougar droptop 351C/FMX Garage Queen
04 Impala LS - Wife's DD
73 Wagoneer parts donor
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Funny you should mention about the internet search troubles. That was the first thing that I though. Impossible now to do a quick "jeep gladiator" search.
I guess now it will be the same with ''Wagoneer"
I'm not a fan of huge modern SUV's mostly because I'm cheap but I think it looks good. I really like the big windows. Thats something my wife mentioned right away when we started driving the 76. loved the visibility, big windows.
Look forward to seeing some on the roads.1976 Jeep Wagoneer
Rebuilt, 360, TH400, QT.
Still not running. Soon!
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It looks like a Navigator and a Durango had a huge baby.
That said, I like it.
The kids are too old for us to need a vehicle that size but in a few years when we retire I could see us pulling an Airstream about with a Grand Wagoneer.
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Like I said on the other site: bleh.
Like Rang said, looks like all the others. If it didn't have "Jeep" on it you wouldn't know.Last edited by SJTD; 09-05-2020, 09:41 PM.Sic friatur crustulum
'84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.
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Nice looking truck but needs a rhino grille!For Sale Custom built reproduction Rhino Grilles http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showt...24#post1676924PM me for details or email [email protected]
1982 Cherokee Chief 258 6 cyl, AX-15, NP208, mopar mpfi, hydroboost brakes.
1983 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 258 6cyl*SOLD*
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GM will be left holding the bag on this one. Very high price for jelly bean car with as many screens in it as possible. ....
The goal to revive legacy product that actually served a purpose while doubling as a luxury truck was very possible. (See ford bronco!). This monstrosity as presented currently masquerading as a Wagoneer, is next to the word mistake in the dictionary.Last edited by littlebuck23; 09-17-2020, 03:49 PM.Terry
1970 Kaiser Wagoneer -SOLD (currently getting built by new owner)
Build thread-http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=103447
1979 Cherokee Chief WT 360. SOLD
1977 Cherokee Chief WT Sport 401. SOLD
1975 International Scout II (My DD)
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I am pleased to see so little chatter on this forum about the new GW. Proof that nobody here really cares after being gaslighted for so long.
I think it's a rather ugly design. It's just not pleasing to the eye in profile and proportion. It would have been easy to fix and make it a pleasing design, but sadly "pleasing" is not the trend in modern automobile styling. The trend in modern automobile styling is "imposing".'72 Jeep Wagoneer Custom, 360 V8
I love how arguements end as soon as Ristow comments. Ristow is right...again.
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Looks like a cross between the current gen grand cherokee and the current gen cherokee.
Looks very generic. Nothing about it stands out from all the other large SUV's on the road today.79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
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I would be far more likely to buy a new Bronco. Chrysler does not make anything interesting anymore at all.Originally posted by HankrodRistows right.................again,
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.
Originally posted by Fasts79ChiefI LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
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Many seem to be upset about the price, but it's not out of line with the old Grand Wagonner.
The 1989 Grand Wagoneer had an MSRP of $26,639. That same year, a Cadillac Eldorado had an MSRP of $25,699, and the Seville had an MSRP of $29,935.
Today, the Cadillac CT6 has an MSRP of $94,985. Cadillac's new Escalade finally has an IRS, and in AWD Premium Luxury trim has an MSRP of $104,290.You ever wonder what medieval cook looked at the guts of a pig and thought, "I bet if you washed out that poop tube, you could stuff it with meat and eat it."
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Originally posted by MysticRobPretty much what I've been thinking. Unless the new GW has its own body panels and unique look beyond the new GC, then I doubt there'll be much interest in it. It looks to be released about the time the economy falls into the biggest hole ever, so hardly anyone will have the ducats to buy one anyway.You ever wonder what medieval cook looked at the guts of a pig and thought, "I bet if you washed out that poop tube, you could stuff it with meat and eat it."
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i sure won't be selling our Navigator to buy one....Originally posted by HankrodRistows right.................again,
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.
Originally posted by Fasts79ChiefI LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
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