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  • SOLSAKS
    304 AMC
    • Jul 25, 2016
    • 1781

    color of wagoneers underneath

    the 2 wagoneers i have are white
    and i noticed like most vehicles
    the metal of floorpans etc under vehicle are body color

    recently i have seen 2 green wagoneers for sale
    and the pictures from the underside on both, show white floorpan areas
    ( the bottom of the bed area where spare tire is mounted is also white )

    does this mean the color has been changed
    or did jeep paint all wagoneers white underneath ?

    any response appreciated.

    dave in NC
    Last edited by SOLSAKS; 03-08-2018, 07:37 AM.
    SOLSAKS - dave
    1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
    1982 J-10 Fleetside
    1988 grand wagoneer
    2004 RUBICON jeep
    Benson, NC
  • babywag
    out of order
    • Jun 08, 2005
    • 10288

    #2
    All ones I?ve seen or owned were/are body color.
    Tony
    88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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    • joe
      • Apr 28, 2000
      • 22392

      #3
      x2
      Same here regardless if wag or truck.
      joe
      "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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      • SOLSAKS
        304 AMC
        • Jul 25, 2016
        • 1781

        #4
        a ha,.....thanx for the verification.

        both of the wagoneers i speak of are on ebay.

        one may claim to have been green from the factory

        or they just did not mention the color change, ( cant remember )

        one was on the high side price wise.

        i assume most folks that want a green wagoneer want it to be originally green from factory.

        i was just curious, and you guys confirmed my doubts.

        dave in NC
        SOLSAKS - dave
        1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
        1982 J-10 Fleetside
        1988 grand wagoneer
        2004 RUBICON jeep
        Benson, NC

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        • FSJunkie
          The Nigel Tufnel of the FSJ world.
          • Jan 09, 2011
          • 4040

          #5
          Well my Jeep was/is white all over, so I can't help you.

          The frame was/is black.
          '72 Jeep Wagoneer Custom, 360 V8

          I love how arguements end as soon as Ristow comments. Ristow is right...again.

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          • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
            Cherokee Outlaw
            • Jan 10, 2006
            • 7292

            #6
            All three of my Cherokees are a very light grey underneath. I believe MattMopar440's Dark Cherry '91 GW and Champaign '87 GW are also very light grey underneath.
            -Jonny B.
            1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
            7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
            AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
            NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
            F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
            R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

            1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
            1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
            1979 Wagoneer - Sold
            1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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            • rang-a-stang
              Administrator
              • Oct 31, 2016
              • 5512

              #7
              Mine's body color...
              Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
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              11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
              09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
              00 Baby Cherokee

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              • babywag
                out of order
                • Jun 08, 2005
                • 10288

                #8
                Maybe it’s a friday end if day rig that isn’t body color?
                Some if these have horrid QC and panel fit.
                My ‘89 had like half inch if shims on all doors which were not even needed after adjusting them correctly. Hood had unneeded shims too.
                Tony
                88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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                • asudchiman
                  327 Rambler
                  • Feb 03, 2016
                  • 689

                  #9
                  Dave,
                  Under my carpet is a well-painted body color. However, under the spare tire is more of a gray color.

                  Kern
                  Current Jeep Fleet:
                  1993 Wrangler Sahara (YJ) Stock, 52k
                  1991 Grand Wagoneer - [Black] 4" Lift, 32's, 92k
                  1991 Grand Wagoneer - [Hunter Green] Stock, 60k
                  1991 Grand Wagoneer - [Hunter Green] Restored (for sale)
                  ------------------------------------------------
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                  • SOLSAKS
                    304 AMC
                    • Jul 25, 2016
                    • 1781

                    #10
                    thanks for the info.

                    i am finding that some got paint underneath

                    and some got primer only.

                    and i am sure at some point, maybe early on,....

                    FSJ's were painted by workers

                    and prob later in FSJ production it may have went to robots

                    for some or all of the paint, so methods and amount of coverage

                    could have changed over the years.

                    dave in NC
                    SOLSAKS - dave
                    1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
                    1982 J-10 Fleetside
                    1988 grand wagoneer
                    2004 RUBICON jeep
                    Benson, NC

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                    • tgreese
                      • May 29, 2003
                      • 11682

                      #11
                      Light gray is the electrocoat of the bare panels. I recall my '75 new was gray underneath - they did not paint the underside beyond the electrocoat dip (spray?) that the raw body got. When I wrecked it and the body shop repainted it, they sprayed the underside too.
                      Tim Reese
                      Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                      Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                      Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                      GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                      ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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                      • FSJunkie
                        The Nigel Tufnel of the FSJ world.
                        • Jan 09, 2011
                        • 4040

                        #12
                        Originally posted by babywag
                        Maybe it?s a friday end if day rig that isn?t body color?
                        Some if these have horrid QC and panel fit.
                        My ?89 had like half inch if shims on all doors which were not even needed after adjusting them correctly. Hood had unneeded shims too.
                        The fit and assembly of the body panels on my 1972 are pretty good. The gaps are average for the time and there are not many shims. However, the paint is crap. They did not prime the metal at all. Just one or two coats of color (single stage enamel) and done. You can see what look like bad sanding marks under it in places but that is FACTORY. It has its original paint. I don't know if it is lead or plastic filler or what, but it was done at the Jeep factory in April, 1972. Some areas inside the doors were not painted at all, and rust of course went to town there.

                        I guess you can say it held up ok because still has its original paint and still looks darn good for 46 years old.

                        But yeah. Body, rust proofing, and paint quality was not stellar on these. The engine, drivetrain, chassis, and interior are well made, but the body is not.
                        '72 Jeep Wagoneer Custom, 360 V8

                        I love how arguements end as soon as Ristow comments. Ristow is right...again.

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                        • ZackN920
                          350 Buick
                          • Nov 18, 2015
                          • 945

                          #13
                          For what still had paint on it... Mine's body color underneath.
                          Now there's a lot of black where I installed the new sheet metal.
                          1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer-"Big Jeep"

                          AMC 360, TF727, NP229, 2.72 gears, 2" lift
                          Rancho 44044 springs, Rusty's 2" AAL, TFI w/ MSD C/R
                          ...in pieces for more rust repair...

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                          • nograin
                            304 AMC
                            • Dec 19, 2000
                            • 2286

                            #14
                            Interesting. As best I can tell my '85 GW is black underneath. black inside the tailgate. Floor (inside) body color - poly brown. Underhood and engine bay - body color.
                            '85 Grand Wagoneer
                            360 727auto, NP229
                            body by beer (PO)
                            carries wood inside
                            no "wood" outside
                            My other car is a fish

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                            • Full Size Jeeper
                              304 AMC
                              • Jul 20, 2014
                              • 2475

                              #15
                              I pulled some of the under coating from the trans tunnel and it is white in color. Most of the under side was pewter gray metallic just like the jeep.
                              1978 Wagoneer

                              401/turbo 400 trans. Quadra-Trac BW1339 (with Low) 4" Rusty's lift with 31" Summit Mud Dawgs

                              Mods:
                              Fuel Tank, Red Holley Fuel Pump, Razor Grill (profile pic out dated), Rebuilt steering box

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