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Old 12-06-2010, 10:42 AM
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Heres a few pictures. It will work out fine, your on the right track now.
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:03 PM
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Would love to do this to mine one day.
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:17 PM
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I just wanted to point out that I clearanced my calipers so I could run 15'' rims. That is why the caliper and rotor look so big, they fill up the inside of the 15'' rim. I also put Caddy e-brake calipers, and that is why there are levers on the back. I still need to hook the e-brake up.
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:22 PM
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Awesome! I'm running 16.5 so maybe I'll get lucky and have them higher. Thank you for the pics! He's checking with his guy, but looks like I'll be getting the right seals and the dodge style brackets sent out to me...and this thread can end with a happy ending.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:18 AM
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Awesome! I'm running 16.5 so maybe I'll get lucky and have them higher. Thank you for the pics! He's checking with his guy, but looks like I'll be getting the right seals and the dodge style brackets sent out to me...and this thread can end with a happy ending.
'tis always good to have happy ending
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:07 AM
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'tis always good to have happy ending

Hey, let's not jump the gun yet :P Only halfway there!
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:11 PM
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Waited patiently for another box to come..came today with new set of hardware, oil seals, and brackets.

Not sure on the oil seals though...I sent him the correct part number National 415003 with links where to get it, he sent me National 415458. The 458's are noticably thinner. So..asking why.

Haven't cross referenced the part number yet to application, but will in a bit, or if someone is bored...

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Old 12-16-2010, 05:03 PM
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the 458 is noticeably thinner than the thick 003.

There is a noticeable difference- the OEM 003 has a metal backing at the oil lip seal, the other one is open rubber.

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okay found both on Rockauto:
003: Nitrile Seal, Shaft Size=2.625", Housing Bore=3.623, Outer Diameter=3.628, Width=0.468in
458: Nitrile Seal, Shaft Size=2.625", Housing Bore=3.623, Outer Diameter=3.628, Width=0.375in

so the only difference is in the width. Should I just order the ones I need and say screw it at this point? Does the width matter?

I of course, sent the vendor this new predicament with the info above. Maybe his supplier screwed up, I dunno. I'm a patient dude. Really..I am.
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:50 PM
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i'd take the thicker one with the metal backing.

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it's true,i have parts here for him from months ago unsent,he hasn't even had the traditional ifsja style "RISTOW SUCKS" drama explosion thread or nuthin.
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:09 PM
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i'd take the thicker one with the metal backing.



it's true,i have parts here for him from months ago unsent,he hasn't even had the traditional ifsja style "RISTOW SUCKS" drama explosion thread or nuthin.

Oh, just wait till I get workin the front axle :P I'm going to send a Strip-O-Gram girl wearing nothing but Little Debbie Snack cakes to your door.....and I ain't requesting the cute one this time...

Yeah, I want the correct seal for it. If I have to order them myself for 19 dollars for the pair I will, but offering to send the 2 sets now I have of wrong ones so he can get a refund and send me the right ones, hopefully.

Just always *my* luck things get messed up, I guess
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:12 PM
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and it'll take even more little debbies to cover up the corn-fed girl. i'm kinda excited now......
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:23 PM
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that was my thought exactly :P
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:26 PM
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LOL!


hey,come do my D44 on my GW next. the caliper will help keep my wheels under me. maybe i should lay off the little debbies...may have overloaded the axle bearing. it was the drivers side y'know.
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:37 PM
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hey,come do my D44 on my GW next. the caliper will help keep my wheels under me. maybe i should lay off the little debbies...may have overloaded the axle bearing. it was the drivers side y'know.

hmmm good point. No, my D44 is getting a high steer drag link and tie rod and tre kit. You need Flint to come fix your rear end, he's got practice at it
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:34 AM
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You need Flint to come fix your rear end, he's got practice at it
<sigh> Experience tells me it is much easier to put new bearings and seals in them if the backing plate isn't ground to scrap. Hmmm, mine was a lefty too. <moon pie weakness>
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:21 AM
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I blame the gas tank...that's why I keep mine on empty all the time :P
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:31 AM
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Vendors reply was that they are an updated design, and perhaps the thinner seal will be less leak prone. I dunno. When it warms up I'll try em out, or drop 20 clams and order the OEM ones if they don't work..seals on the FF D60 are stupidly easy to change, so it's not a huge issue.

Now time to get some studs and get on with this swap!
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:48 PM
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I went to Napa and they crossed the original National seal # to Napa part# 26238. $21.49 Each. Worked great.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:11 PM
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I went to Napa and they crossed the original National seal # to Napa part# 26238. $21.49 Each. Worked great.

Mine came with National 003's installed: $9.72 cents each. The other ones sent are 7.50 or so each..from Rockauto.

ah I see yours..the difference is yours has the dirt lip that the 003's have, and the new ones do not.
Wheel Seal I.D. : 2.625"
Wheel Seal O.D. : 3.628"
Wheel Seal Width : .375"

looks like yours are the thin ones too. Well..I'll use the ones sent and get the right ones next time I think about it. I think you overpaid though going through napa..
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:08 AM
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Napa is the only place around here that could cross the #s for me. $47 was cheaper then driving to next town and taking all day to find new seals. Gas and time cost more then $20. And yes me rear hurt a lot when I walked out of the Napa store. But gunbi refunded me for the seals.


Now get on with the project!!!!
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