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Old 09-03-2011, 07:57 AM
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Aren't some of the shafts different sized/spline count? I seem to recall something about that..
Something like that... When I put the 76 Cherk steering column in the 77 J20, I found the lower section of the shaft was bigger in diameter on the J20 column and had to swap it on the Cherk column. When I put the 79 J20 steering box on the 88 GW, it fit right up to the 88 steering column.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:57 AM
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wow, and I paid big bucks for the borgenson (or however you spell it) at BJ's. Oh well, next rig I will know better.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:35 AM
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Thankyouverymuch! Snooping parts now to go with upcoming S10 box swap.

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Old 09-05-2011, 03:32 PM
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Old 09-05-2011, 05:48 PM
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'splain why?

OK, I'm stupid on this one...

Never had a problem with, nor ever paid attention to any rag-joint issues. So question is: What typically goes wrong with rag-joints such that an XJ lower shaft would be more better?
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Old 09-05-2011, 05:53 PM
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OK, I'm stupid on this one...

Never had a problem with, nor ever paid attention to any rag-joint issues. So question is: What typically goes wrong with rag-joints such that an XJ lower shaft would be more better?


They are a wear item that contributes to sloppy steering..it's an ancient design as well that AMC figured worked 'good enough'. They do soak up power steering fluid and oil really well though!
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Old 09-05-2011, 05:58 PM
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They are a wear item that contributes to sloppy steering..it's an ancient design as well that AMC figured worked 'good enough'. They do soak up power steering fluid and oil really well though!

Tnx...I'll go do a "flex" check. May learn something. I't's been a while since I discovered a new problem anyway.
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Old 09-05-2011, 06:13 PM
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Tnx...I'll go do a "flex" check. May learn something. I't's been a while since I discovered a new problem anyway.

well it's like the weather..wait long enough and something will break
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:37 PM
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I grabbed the lower half from a 96 XJ this weekend. Went swap it in, but for the life of me I can't seprate the Waggy lower from upper linkage. I moved the bushing down, but to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:27 AM
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I grabbed the lower half from a 96 XJ this weekend. Went swap it in, but for the life of me I can't seprate the Waggy lower from upper linkage. I moved the bushing down, but to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks

The waggy shaft doesn't come apart as easy as the XJ. I just gave mine a few good hits with the hammer and it came right apart.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:04 AM
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OK, I'm stupid on this one...

Never had a problem with, nor ever paid attention to any rag-joint issues. So question is: What typically goes wrong with rag-joints such that an XJ lower shaft would be more better?

It's a good upgrade if you run a bodylift too. Will definately pick up a couple since there are a ton of XJ's at my local yard.



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Old 09-08-2011, 07:20 AM
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I did the swap last weekend. A couple notes from my experience...

- I had to take the entire radiator/AC condenser assembly off because the GC shaft would not telescope in (to make it short enough to remove).
- take the clamp bolt from the newer shaft home with you.
- A few good whacks with the small sledge got both sets to separate.
- The new lower shaft was quite a bit shorter than my '81 Wag shaft.

Looks good enough, though.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:21 AM
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So what is the purpose of the rag joint?
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:39 AM
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I think it is supposed to dampen feedback and harshnes. I don't think any of us care about that. It also flexes to allow tiny off axis movement.
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Old 09-09-2011, 07:24 PM
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I got a steering shaft off a 96 xj. Shaft looks identical to the one in the post. I can't get mine to come apart. Any suggestions.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:34 PM
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I got a steering shaft off a 96 xj. Shaft looks identical to the one in the post. I can't get mine to come apart. Any suggestions.

I hit it with an air hammer and it came right out.
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:57 PM
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Yup, big hammer smashing got it seperated. Feels good, but I guess I have to wait for the drivetrain to actually be in the Jeep and working to really rate it . Certainly looks better than the worn out rag joint!
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