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Old 08-12-2015, 04:04 AM
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Vigilante engine details?

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Just wondering if anyone is sharp on this stuff. I've seen some old brochure pics, but don't know if that is accurate, as to what actually was installed in FSJ's...sometimes companies spiff up stuff for brochures, to make them photograph better.

The only FSJ 327 I've had, was a 2V. Sort of a seafoam green color all over. Orange air cleaner with ribbed snorkle.

Have seen a pic of the 4V version, it seems to be a metallic gold, with chrome valve covers and a much bigger air cleaner- looks identical to the 2 327 Ramblers I had. It looks more red than orange. Both brochure engines seem to have even the pulleys and exhaust manifolds painted engine color- the engines I had, the exhausts were just bare iron.

Just curious if any of you resto-minded guys might have any knowledge on this stuff...engine paint codes, production vs. brochure trim, etc. If I can ever get another one of these mills, would like to make it look really nice.

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Old 08-12-2015, 11:28 AM
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The Gold one is from CA and marine only I thought?
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:45 PM
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I thought the CA and marine engines were red?
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:50 PM
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I like red
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:56 PM
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I think the high performance motors were gold colored, but Gen I and Gen II only.
Gen III were Red for CA and only 2 bbl after '77?

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Old 08-15-2015, 12:38 AM
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Haha...I usually HATE red....but in this case, exemption granted!

Man, your KILLING me with your Jeep....for some reason I just miss that engine alot. Smooth, torquey, and sounded like nothing else in my old
blue 66 Marlin, with the 'true dual' (no crossover) exhaust. Yeah, it's not the hottest mill by a long shot, but for some reason it just pushes the right buttons.

Think part of it is the 'cosmic confluence' of old Jeeps and Ramblers- I love both, and with a Vigi in a FSJ, it's like two treats in one- classic mill in a classic bod.

Been dreaming of having my Wag sing that old tune...it's music
If I can get me a 327, and if he's still alive at the time, I want to get a set of flanges/starter tubes from "Headers By Ed", and make some custom pipes for it- he even makes the 3-pipe collectors for the old, GEN1-type American '6-(exhaust) port' V8's- AMC, Cadillac, Studebaker, Olds.

Well, manifolds or headers- with true duals and a pair of Porters, it should sound sweet.

Yeah, Rambler called it 'Rampart Red', they used it on the 4bbl 327's.
The 287's were kind of a turquoise. When Hudson 'borrowed' the engine
for the 55-57 'Hashes'...they were a weird purple with yellow valve covers!
Both my 66 Marlins had the Rampart Red 327 4bbl mills...man I miss those rigs.

Carnuck- I'm no expert, just a fan...but what few factory pics I've seen of the Jeep-used 327's, the 2bbl 250hp was some kind of seafomy-green, and the 4bbl 270hp was metallic gold with red and chrome accents. That 67 Wag I briefly had, had the sea-greenie mill with the orange air cleaner.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:31 PM
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1965-1966: "Rampart Red" for 327s (2 and 4 barrel), teal blue for 287's.
1967: Gold for 290's, Copper for 343's.
1968: "Caravelle Blue". Was an optional body color that year. It's a rich, deep, metallic blue.
1969-1973: "AMC Engine Blue". It's a teal blue metallic.
1971-1973 California: "Rampart Red".
1974-198something: "AMC Engine Blue" but without the metallic. Ends up a teal blue color, but not the same as the 287.

Never trust period ads for the appearance of an engine. No 327 ever had chrome valve covers, unlike the photos. Some ads show engines in PURPLE which never happened. You just can't trust them.
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:58 PM
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Thanks, FS

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Thanks for the details. Maybe all those odd colored ones, were just for press purposes, or to make them 'pop' in the brochures?

But yeah, the 67 Wag I had ever so briefly, the engine was actually a sea-foamy kind of green, all over. That green, with the orange air cleaner, was pretty strange looking!

I still like that 327 pic you posted a while ago, red with the chrome dual snorkle cleaner and the valve covers, that was sharp looking. Sweet mill that one is
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I think the high performance motors were gold colored, but Gen I and Gen II only.
Gen III were Red for CA and only 2 bbl after '77?

Pretty crazy...I researched and wrote that up sometime in the '80's.
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