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  • Brizio
    AMC 4 OH! 1
    • Apr 11, 2008
    • 4850

    #46
    That thing is a UFO!!!
    brizios.com
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    • AMC-J/20
      350 Buick
      • Dec 17, 2009
      • 1326

      #47
      Wow shockingly impressive ! 6BT finally, the 4BT is a fine unit but its been done to death

      Very nice

      Mike
      1953 REO M48.
      1962 GMC C3000.
      1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
      1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
      1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
      1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
      1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
      1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

      A M C Means Jeep to me

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      • Bill Moore
        304 AMC
        • May 22, 2006
        • 2139

        #48
        WTG Mike! you have to love the 5.9 in anything with a stick. how much did you have to adjust the wheelbase for the Cherokee? Dana 60 up front?
        DDs
        67 KJ715 4bt AA OD 465 np205
        78 J20 Chevy 305 nv4500 np205

        Projects

        Sons Build 1980 short bed J10, j20 axles, 4bt, nv4500, np205, shortened M715 bed and fenders

        Freedom is not Free, it is paid for with Blood

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        • gotmike
          327 Rambler
          • Aug 31, 2008
          • 503

          #49
          i took out just over 2 feet of frame... kept the dodge axles, but eventually i shattered the pinion in the rear axle... so i upgraded from a weak dana 70 to a dana 70 HD... which is pretty much the same except for the bearings (which caused the whole thing anyway)
          J.E.E.P
          Just Everyone Elses Parts!
          '77 Cherokee Chief
          w/ '92 12v cummins,
          NV4500
          NP 205
          e]
          Dana 60 Front axle
          Dana 70-HD Rear axle
          Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
          trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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          • AMC-J/20
            350 Buick
            • Dec 17, 2009
            • 1326

            #50
            Looks to be a fine project . . .

            i kinda like it in a poetic justice sort of way Dodge killed off the Full sized jeep's to survive, now a dodge is killed off to keep a Full sized Jeep alive

            Not that i ever much cared for Dodge's anyhow. . .

            Mike
            1953 REO M48.
            1962 GMC C3000.
            1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
            1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
            1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
            1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
            1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
            1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

            A M C Means Jeep to me

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            • gotmike
              327 Rambler
              • Aug 31, 2008
              • 503

              #51
              Originally posted by AMC-J/20
              Looks to be a fine project . . .

              i kinda like it in a poetic justice sort of way Dodge killed off the Full sized jeep's to survive, now a dodge is killed off to keep a Full sized Jeep alive
              i like it... never quite thought of it that way...
              J.E.E.P
              Just Everyone Elses Parts!
              '77 Cherokee Chief
              w/ '92 12v cummins,
              NV4500
              NP 205
              e]
              Dana 60 Front axle
              Dana 70-HD Rear axle
              Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
              trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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              • Hankrod
                Banned
                • Jun 22, 2005
                • 272

                #52
                I really like my turbocharged 401, but my hat is off to you guys with the 6bt's! If time, money, and willpower are ever provided to me I think - I will build one someday. Hankrod

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                • AMC-J/20
                  350 Buick
                  • Dec 17, 2009
                  • 1326

                  #53
                  I call's em as i see's em

                  Mike
                  1953 REO M48.
                  1962 GMC C3000.
                  1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
                  1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
                  1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
                  1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
                  1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
                  1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

                  A M C Means Jeep to me

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                  • AMC-J/20
                    350 Buick
                    • Dec 17, 2009
                    • 1326

                    #54
                    help me here i got lost in the print, you have an FSJ on top of a dodge truck ?

                    or

                    You have a dodge truck power plant inside of a FSJ ?

                    I might consider such a project only with a J/20 . . .

                    Mike
                    1953 REO M48.
                    1962 GMC C3000.
                    1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
                    1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
                    1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
                    1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
                    1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
                    1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

                    A M C Means Jeep to me

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                    • gotmike
                      327 Rambler
                      • Aug 31, 2008
                      • 503

                      #55
                      it's a frankenstein of a little bit of both... mainly it's a FSJ on top of a dodge truck platform...
                      J.E.E.P
                      Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                      '77 Cherokee Chief
                      w/ '92 12v cummins,
                      NV4500
                      NP 205
                      e]
                      Dana 60 Front axle
                      Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                      Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                      trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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                      • AMC-J/20
                        350 Buick
                        • Dec 17, 2009
                        • 1326

                        #56
                        So if i were to build such a truck with a J/20 i would have to have a dodge rolling chassie ?

                        or

                        would the engine/trans stuff into the J/20 chassie ?

                        Mike
                        1953 REO M48.
                        1962 GMC C3000.
                        1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
                        1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
                        1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
                        1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
                        1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
                        1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

                        A M C Means Jeep to me

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                        • gotmike
                          327 Rambler
                          • Aug 31, 2008
                          • 503

                          #57
                          it would fit in a j/20 frame/chassis... though it might take a bit of work... it would be easier to use a dodge rolling drivetrain... but it's up to you and your fabrication skills...
                          J.E.E.P
                          Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                          '77 Cherokee Chief
                          w/ '92 12v cummins,
                          NV4500
                          NP 205
                          e]
                          Dana 60 Front axle
                          Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                          Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                          trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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                          • AMC-J/20
                            350 Buick
                            • Dec 17, 2009
                            • 1326

                            #58
                            Well I think its within my skill level, just not so sure its within my income bracket.

                            Buying a whole truck with a usable chassie is $4,000-$6,000.

                            Good solid J20 $3,000-$5,000 so I'm told, From what I've seen there $6,000-$8,000.

                            So I'd have to buy a $5,000 truck and $7,000 truck and cut them up n weld them together...

                            Seem a bit steep for my wallet, thanks for the heads up at least I know it can be done.

                            Don't sound like its for me tho...

                            Mike
                            1953 REO M48.
                            1962 GMC C3000.
                            1969 AMC AMX-390 Resto.
                            1971 AMC/Jeep J4000DRW.
                            1983 AMC Eagle project SX/290.
                            1988 AMC/Jeep project MJ/343.
                            1989 Jeep GrandWagoneer.
                            1991 Dodge Ram-Charger.

                            A M C Means Jeep to me

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                            • The PIG Smith
                              King Browless

                              Moderator
                              • Nov 30, 2001
                              • 6538

                              #59
                              Originally posted by AMC-J/20
                              Well I think its within my skill level, just not so sure its within my income bracket.

                              Buying a whole truck with a usable chassie is $4,000-$6,000.

                              Good solid J20 $3,000-$5,000 so I'm told, From what I've seen there $6,000-$8,000.

                              So I'd have to buy a $5,000 truck and $7,000 truck and cut them up n weld them together...

                              Seem a bit steep for my wallet, thanks for the heads up at least I know it can be done.

                              Don't sound like its for me tho...

                              Mike
                              This is exactly the reason I have not gone down the path of the Cummins swap...too expensive for what I can find locally.
                              So, I bought my Diesel van for next to nothing to use as a donor.
                              It was such good shape, I just started using it.
                              It's 6.2L runs so well, I dunno if I can bring myself to slice it up.
                              Maybe some day, I've find that cheap Cummins project.
                              Bryan Smith
                              2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
                              - 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green
                              1986 Jeep J20
                              - Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line
                              1982 Jeep J10
                              - Has become a Long Term Project.
                              1981 Jeep J20
                              - Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
                              1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
                              - Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone

                              IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001

                              Originally posted by Jayrodoh
                              ...but if it works, I wouldn't touch it.
                              Originally posted by Lindel
                              Best laid plans, yada yada yada...

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                              • gotmike
                                327 Rambler
                                • Aug 31, 2008
                                • 503

                                #60
                                i paid $6000 for my truck and drove it for 3 years... then i converted it... but i've seen a couple trucks (www.cumminsforum.com) go for 500 to 1000 with a bit of body damage... it's all about luck and timing... i've seen a couple of decent j trucks come across in non-running condition for under a grand as well... so it might be possible with some extra work...
                                J.E.E.P
                                Just Everyone Elses Parts!
                                '77 Cherokee Chief
                                w/ '92 12v cummins,
                                NV4500
                                NP 205
                                e]
                                Dana 60 Front axle
                                Dana 70-HD Rear axle
                                Build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=90702
                                trailer build thread: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?p=1314880&posted=1#post1314880

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