Absolute minimum lift for 35s

[Alienature]

Hello. Im new to the fsj world, I just got an 87 gw and I'm getting ready to lift it up. I have a set of 35 12.5 15 km2s off of a wrangler I sold that will be going under the wagon. From what I've read Rustys 6" and some trimming will clear 35s. My question is can I get away with a shorter lift and maybe a little more ? I Rolled the 35s next to the stock tires and a 6" lift seems excessive. But I yield to experience. Thanks!

[surfwagoneer]

So I had this same debate and ended up throwing together what I could at the time but still ended up coming out with about 6" of lift and cleared 35's (315/75/16 a little short). I have a 4" lift, 1" body lift and extended shackles up front and 1" zero rate spring in the rear. I've thought about taking out the extended shackles and zero rate spring but I like the wheel travel and stance it has as it sits. I have trimmed the front and rear substantially but I think it has come out looking very good. It has proven to be very stable on the trail. With some chevy springs in the rear, giving me a bit more droop, I'll have a very capable rig.

[Alienature]

I Like it, where'd you source the lift?

[surfwagoneer]

The springs are rusty's 4" springs. I highly suggest just buying the springs though and picking up some better shocks. I'm also on 1 tons, thus the wider stance. With stock axles or a bit larger backspacing the rear would stuff very nicely.

[Alienature]

Thanks, and awesome rig man

[c.maus]

I'm thinking of doing something similar but i'm on an really tight budget and i have some questions. What did the setup cost you? What shocks should i use? where did you get the shackles and body lift? Also, what trimming was needed? Could i save money by skipping on the body lift and/or shackles and trade for a little more hammering and cutting?

Thank you, Cameron

[rang-a-stang]

Yeah, a few variables here:

Do you have a WideTrack? If so, you don't need as much lift to fit bigger tires.

[c.maus]

I have a 77 wagoneer with quadra trac and low range reduction, im not sure if it has wide track or not.

[j10jim]

Waggies are not widetrack. Jtrucks and MOST Cherokee's are widetrack. They have noticeable fender flares and MUCH bigger rear wheel openings.

[c.maus]

My budget is like 1500, I was thinking about getting treadwrights because it makes all the other tires seem like a rip off. I was also looking at rustys off road lift kits
https://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-s...sion-lift-kits I don't know if it's worth the extra for full springs or get an add a lift, or if I should get the 6inch lift for more flex.

[babywag]

6" lift springs will reduce flex significantly. Do some research on SOA (front) and shackle flip (rear).
Ride like OE, lots flex.
The 6" spring lift I had zero flex up front, very little in rear, and tore the front springs hangers from the frame.
Worst thing I ever did to any FSJ.

[c.maus]

Ice heard soa kits require a longer drive shift, would I still have to do this? Also what should I do for springs?

[babywag]

Ice heard soa kits require a longer drive shift, would I still have to do this? Also what should I do for springs?

stock springs can used

IIRC there is a JY front shaft that's a bolt in and correct length.

Use google to search...LOTS of info on SOA
If you want lift and big tires and flex, way better than just lift springs.

site:ifsja.org SOA
the above punched into google search will net you lots of reading