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I have a '79 golden eagle that I am going to buy a winch for. I am on the bubble between a warn vr10000 and a vr12000. If anyone has knowledgable/experienced input I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Jay-ten
Thanks,
Jay-ten
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'74 J-10 & '79 Cherokee Golden Eagle
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10k will be more than adequate. I have a 10k smittybilt & 6k lb wag. Have not found myself wishing for a 12k yet. A golden eagle isn't even close to 6k lbs.68 gladiator- 455/400/20 r.i.p.
78 wagoneer- 401, drw60, drw70, 203/205, 38's, oba, obw, hydroboost, dual p/s pump, bla bla bla
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10k will be plenty big. General rule is 1.5 x GVWR, Both my J-4000's had older 8000 lb Warn-Belview stand up winches and always got me and others unstuck. I've never needed more than an 8000 on anything up to 3/4 ton trucks.. Bigger is better but only to a point. Whatever route you go DO buy and use a snatch block.joe
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10K will probably be ok. A jeep could use more than twice it's weight in pulling power to pull it out of the mud. You're not pulling a free wheeling machine. There's really not that much difference between the 2 winches. Although you can get a way with the 10 a few pennies more resolves your question. Remember the saying I coulda had a V/8.
I have a 12K. I have loaded it up completely. The snatch block is always an option as Joe said. It's a great option. This is a huge investment. My winch has done everything from pull fence post, tree trunks, & roots, straightened car frames raised radio towers, to pulling dead vehicles on the trailers & pulling vehicles out of the mud. I even raised the front end off the ground to untangle some barbed wire in the middle of nowhere. It's not a place to cut corners.
80 Cherokee
360 ci 727 with
Comp cams 270 h
NP208
Edlebrock performer intake
Holley 4180
Msd total multi spark.
4" rusty's springs
Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.Comment
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Your power supply for the winch is another thing to look at.
A dual battery set up is best for a winch.1967 J2000
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Tip of the iceburg batteries alternator wiring all need to be upgraded.Originally posted by mokurt
80 Cherokee
360 ci 727 with
Comp cams 270 h
NP208
Edlebrock performer intake
Holley 4180
Msd total multi spark.
4" rusty's springs
Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.Comment
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Thanks for the input
I really appreciate the input. I am leaning towards the 10k and a snatch block.'74 J-10 & '79 Cherokee Golden Eagle
http://sites.google.com/site/jeepj10pickup/
Gone but not forgotten:
'76 Wagoneer - 401 & '77 Cherokee Chief W/T - 360Comment
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Get a couple of snatch blocks and a half a dozen D rings too.
With 3 snatch blocks you can pull your own rig backwards.82 Cherokee WT ? SFwith Alcan/agr box/Borgeson shaft/ 401/performer/Holley TA/HEI/BeCool/727/ALTAS(2.0/2.72/5.44)/D60 Snofighter(Yukon Zip,hubs,stubs,4.56)/14 Bolt (FF,BF shave,Discs, ARB,Artec Truss)/MTR 37/Corbeau Moab Seats /Hella/tuffy console/sliders/custombumpers&roll bar/WARN 8000/steering brace/CO2 Tank/dual batts/custom TCskid plate
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A good rule of thumb is your winch should be at least 1.5 times the weight of your Wrangler. If your Jeep is stock other than the winch you will be adding, you can just multiply your gross vehicle weight (GVW) by 1.5. I will suggest you to take help from online portals as it will provide lots of options. I was also in a dilemma a couple of months back when I have decided to buy a new winch for my Wrangler and got some decent options to consider on portals like Quadratec, Jautostation(https://jautostation.com/best-jeep-winch/), Ford jeeps, Jeep world websites.Last edited by Jack105479; 05-18-2020, 04:53 AM.Comment
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Wow What a can of worms. A snatch is used to double your pulling power. Why well 10k 12k is off the last row of cable. As you bring your cable in each layer of cable decreases your pull weight. So a 12k winch your first layer of cable only has 6800 of pull power. This is a rough number not exact. Then you snatch block it means more cable out so now your in 3rd row.Now you pull at 9200.
Like what was said battery alternator wiring. Another worm can.Amps are current flow. So a free wheeling winch draws 65 amps. At max load it can be as high as 400 amps. So to do it right bigger wires to carry the load ,alternator to make amps,battery to stow the amps. This is a rough ideal what needs to be done right.Owner of Jakes FSJ Junkyard
91 Jeep Cherokee /2006 3500 Dodge AKA Babe the big blue puller
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Since this thread is 5 years old, he has probably made his decision. Although I did enjoy reading a comment from SerehillBen
78 j10 honcho 360/th400/d20 (sunday driver)...97 F-350 crew-cab 4x4 5-spd PSD (tow rig)Comment
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Always funny when someone bumps an old thread just to repeat a previous answer.
And without an acknowledgement of the repeat. Bad form.Sic friatur crustulum
'84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.Comment
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[QUOTE=Jack105479]A good rule of thumb is your winch should be at least 1.5 times the weight of your Wrangler. If your Jeep is stock other than the winch you will be adding, you can just multiply your gross vehicle weight (GVW) by 1.5. I will suggest you to take help from online portals as it will provide lots of options. I was also in a dilemma a couple of months back when I have decided to buy a new winch for my Wrangler and got some decent options to consider on portals like Indiamart, Jautostation(https://jautostation.com/best-jeep-winch/), extremeterrain.Comment
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