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Old 07-25-2020, 10:31 PM
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I started working on the sniper system. Because I'm just going to use the robbmc surge tank for now, I decided to recess it into my drivers inner fender. I located the hyperspark box on the firewall and the coil on the drivers inner fender. I'm not 100% sure if my coil will stay there.



I have most of the parts coming to finish the sniper. My used unit did not come with the 02 sensor or harness, or the coolant sensor. Unless I misplaced them? I also need fuel filters and fuel injection fuel line.



I'm still thinking about what I'm going to do about the dash. It is pretty crusty. and has just that one rust hole.


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Old 07-31-2020, 11:46 PM
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I'm still waiting on the sniper parts. In the mean time I was able to use the old Makita battery trick to lower the rear window and with some patience and pb blaster "it" ( The tailgate ) opened for the first time in at least 10 years. This, I was really sweating - because of the passenger door latch foot being super rusty and seized.












All of my fuel lines are routed except the Fuel injection pressure hose to the sniper. I did change the 90's from the tight turn brass to a long radius earls. I hope it helps. Got my new plugs in, my dui live wires ran. I need to dig up an HEI style coil wire to finish those. Install the temp sensor and o2 stuff. finish the sniper wiring add some fuel. prime the robbMc tank and see what happens. I'm really hoping it happens this week.













Then its getting the dash repaired and re installed with the sweet dash pad Art threw in and the new to me dakota gauges. Then the windshield. Then the floors.

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Old 08-08-2020, 11:53 PM
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Still waiting on the final parts for the Fuel injection. They are suppose to be here by the 12th.


While waiting on that stuff I was able to order and get replacement floor pans and a windshield gasket, I have also been trying to get the dash looking better by removing as much rust as possible. That dash has deep surface rust in many spots. I'm now trying to strip the paint vs sanding it and then apply some evaporust. Keeping it wet will be my issue. It is warm here in the afternoon when I'm working on it.



I wish I could just swap it! The vin is attached so that seems like a bad idea.





I have a welder now so I'm going to figure it out how to use it and repair my dash rust hole. Hopefully that will happen in the near future! Rain will be here before I know it and I need that windshield back in.
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Old 08-23-2020, 12:16 AM
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Small update.

The fuel injection is super close to being done, all of the lines are ran filters are in, and psi gauge is on.



I need to get a battery and finish the wiring and add Fuel.

While I waiting on the last of the FI parts, I started messing with the brakes and shocks.



I Ordered shocks. The front ones showed up, the rears are drop shipped. I assume they will be here soon. I'm not sure what to go with for the steering stabilizer. I want to stay with the same brand "Bilstien" but am having a hard time locating one of theirs.


The Master cyl needs replaced, and brake fluid flushed. I'm also going to replace the front calipers and F/R rubber brake lines.


The dash is back in mostly, It's all fixed up and the holes for the pad are welded also. Because I'm not going to use the dash pad, I found a solution for the speaker hole. A decent three gauge pod. It needs trimmed to fit the contour of the dash top. but it was an easy solution. I got the idea from another FSJ'er.



I got the dropped pitman arm on.



I tried to install the windshield by myself.... It didn't happen. What a PITA! You need four hands or experience doing it.


I picked up a couple of storage bins someone made for an FSJ. I need to remove the spare tire bracket for the drivers side to fit properly.


So things are moving along, just a bit slow.

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Old 08-23-2020, 08:57 AM
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I like this rig.
enjoyed the photos.

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Old 08-23-2020, 09:17 AM
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So things are moving along, just a bit slow.
Things might not be moving as fast as you want, but you're still embarrassing a lot of us. About the only thing I manage to accomplish is growing an ever thickening layer of moss and lichen over the north side.

BJ's has braided steel brake lines. I always run them for improved pedal feel on my road cars and went with them on the J20 as well.

I don't want to sidetrack the build thread too badly, but what kind of welder did you end up with?
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Old 08-23-2020, 12:50 PM
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Those storage bins are awesome!
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Old 08-23-2020, 05:35 PM
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Things might not be moving as fast as you want, but you're still embarrassing a lot of us. About the only thing I manage to accomplish is growing an ever thickening layer of moss and lichen over the north side.

BJ's has braided steel brake lines. I always run them for improved pedal feel on my road cars and went with them on the J20 as well.

I don't want to sidetrack the build thread too badly, but what kind of welder did you end up with?






Thanks. I feel like I should have been able to fire it up by now. With a carb. I could have a while back. Heck I got the mud bog Golden hawks 6cyl to fire last weekend! That felt pretty darn good. AMC 6's are sturdy.



Anyway...... I have bj's braided lines. I don't want to put them on until the hard lines are flushed and running clear fluid.



My brother showed me pretty quick how to weld. He unlike me has been welding for many many years. I honestly forgot he had that skill set. I bought a campbell hausfeld. mig came set up with a tank and solid core wire, and an extra spool of flux core. It's a good one for me. I'm excited to get to the floor pans after its running and moving under it's own power.



My two Teenage daughters helped me install the front windshield today. That was pretty cool. They do show some interest in my jeep fascination, but not much.


I move the oil gauge into the pod. You can see what needs to get trimmed with this pic. It's flat, The dash is not.
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Old 08-23-2020, 05:35 PM
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Those storage bins are awesome!




Thanks, It was a lucky score!
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:56 PM
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Izat a windshield gasket that doesn't use the metal trim?

If so is it new?

If so where'd you get it???
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Old 08-24-2020, 05:59 PM
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Izat a windshield gasket that doesn't use the metal trim?

If so is it new?

If so where'd you get it???






It does take the trim. I'm not going to use the trim. It is new and it came from bj's offroad.
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Old 08-30-2020, 08:55 PM
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More progress, but no start up yet.


I'm working on the brakes. I have a master cylinder coming sometime soon I hope, I swapped the power booster for one I pulled out of the 86 parts wag.
That sucked. My hands were cramped and scraped up when it was all said and done. There is not much room between the booster and fire wall. I'm glad I have a 15mm open end wrench.


I installed bilstien shocks on all 4 corners, They seem upside down, But it says you need to have their name so you can read it.



I upgraded to wilwood front calipers, I have new rotors I have to get installed. along with bj's extended braided lines.



I added a fuel pressure gauge on the inlet side of the sniper.



I would like to get a dual post battery for all of the extra sniper wiring so its separate from my regular cables.
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Old 08-30-2020, 10:05 PM
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Ooooh!!! Bilsteins and Wilwood??? Muy bien!! What is the part number for those calipers? Are they bolt on? Are you doing a replacement master cylinder or upgraded one?
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Old 08-30-2020, 10:22 PM
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Ooooh!!! Bilsteins and Wilwood??? Muy bien!! What is the part number for those calipers? Are they bolt on? Are you doing a replacement master cylinder or upgraded one?



Just a stock replacement master cylinder.


Wilwood part # 14011290R This is the one. it is a direct bolt on for the FSJ. A couple of their kits look like they will work but it's all about the rotor thickness when looking up the wilwood calipers.



Most wilwood 70's& 80's gm calipers are the same design, but the truck calipers are built wider because our rotors are thicker. So the passenger car wilwood's will physically fit in rotor location without pads, but it just won't go over your rotor with pads in place.
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:10 PM
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I have the sniper totally installed and turned the key for the first time in in many months..... It wont start. ugh! The hand held RPM reading says Stall, and doesn't change while cranking it.


I have to go back and verify that I set it up right in the hand held.



It feels good to at least turn it over. I bought the sniper used. It came with throttle body, coil, hyperspark distributor, sniper ignition box & mcrobb surge tank with pump. Fuel PSI is fine. I don't know if RPM stall means no spark or? The guy that had it was having some issues but his rig was at least running.



I'm going to keep looking online also.



Any pointers would be great. Thanks.
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:35 PM
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Not knowing much of anything about packaged aftermarket EFI conversion kits, this is a guess, but a warning of "RPM stall" seems to indicate that the unit is not seeing any indication that the engine is turning over. One would assume the ECU is not seeing the signal from whatever sensor the system uses to report engine RPM.
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Old 09-20-2020, 08:53 PM
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Not knowing much of anything about packaged aftermarket EFI conversion kits, this is a guess, but a warning of "RPM stall" seems to indicate that the unit is not seeing any indication that the engine is turning over. One would assume the ECU is not seeing the signal from whatever sensor the system uses to report engine RPM.




Good call. I started at the distributor. disconnected the harness pulled the cap bumped motor until the rotor was pointing at #1.... Reinstalled cap pulled the #1 plug wire plugged harness back in put ignition key in the on position grabbed spare plug put it in the plug wire and rotated back and fourth the dist to see if plug would spark against metal. Nothing.....



Next I started looking for spark at the coil and found that the coil is not receiving a power signal from the ignition box harness for the coil.



The Ignition box is powered directly from the positive and negative on the battery. An extra ignition box came with it and it does the same thing. no coil power coming out.



Seems weird to me. There is a light on the box that glows orange. That probably has something to do with my problem. I assume.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:36 PM
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Seems weird to me. There is a light on the box that glows orange. That probably has something to do with my problem. I assume.
Assume no more!
https://documents.holley.com/199r11509.pdf

There's a little rudimentary troubleshooting guide in that document as well as a tech hotline to call. There aren't too many wires to trace if it comes to that.
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:34 AM
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I have it wired like the pic. I need to grab my mulitmeter and confirm my keyed wire is correct. It has to have something to do with that.


I need to double check the ground from engine to frame also.
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Old 09-22-2020, 10:20 PM
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Super cool update:



After taking pics and asking questions on a sniper specific page my no spark problem is solved. It was too late to try to actually fire it up tonight. I really wanted to.



This is a used system that had a wire cut under the protective wire sheath. (I think it was from the other guy trying different components) and another one spliced on that went nowhere. I reconnected the wire and got the RPM signal back.


We are in for a few days of rain here so I will fire it up after this storm system passes and see if will move!



Next I will get all of the wires weather proof and routed in the permanent locations, then start working on the dash gauges.
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