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  • j20brett
    360 AMC
    • Jul 05, 2006
    • 2963

    Ring gear bolt tourque

    Ok, so i installed my aussie locker this weekend, and went to tourque the ring gear bolts back down and i went to 50 ft/lbs first thinking that was it. Went throught the manual and found a refernce to 108ft/lbs so i started tourquing and broke off a bolt. this is a d44 front by the way. So, someone tell me, what should i tourque to??
    Kaiser - 1981 J20 115" WB - 5.3l/4l60E/np241c/3-link hp60 spooled/Leafs 14-bolt detroit/5.13's/40's

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  • JeepsAndGuns
    AMC 4 OH! 1
    • Jul 18, 2003
    • 4586

    #2
    A google search brings a few sites and they all listed 100 FT-LBS.
    I dont know for sure, but are you even supposed to re use the ring gear bolts? You might not. But like I said, I'm not sure.
    79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
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    • deadironrat
      258 I6
      • Mar 25, 2008
      • 382

      #3
      I don't think you are supposed to resure ring gear bolts but I always have anyways. I've always just gone for "really tight" instead of "tight". I don't own a torque wrench.
      Jacob Z

      1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, work in progress

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      • #4
        1 blip on setting #5 of my Ingersol 1/2" impact wrench.
        David "If all else fails, read the instructions."
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        • Sambo
          AMC 4 OH! 1
          • Sep 25, 2001
          • 3585

          #5
          your "not" supposed to reuse them but i do anyway! i just torque em to whatever my #4 setting on my impact is(150) i think and use loctite btw!
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          84wag,360,tf727,???! possiblities are d300 flipped and a ford d44 hp with coils

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          • j20brett
            360 AMC
            • Jul 05, 2006
            • 2963

            #6
            Ok thanks. Best place to get new ring gear bolts?? It shouldnt have snapped before 100 ft/lbs then. Crazy.
            Kaiser - 1981 J20 115" WB - 5.3l/4l60E/np241c/3-link hp60 spooled/Leafs 14-bolt detroit/5.13's/40's

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            • fullsizejohn
              258 I6
              • Nov 20, 2006
              • 390

              #7
              i got mine from randys ring and pinion.....excellent product,fast shipping and nice people.....although at almost $5 each(for my 14b), hold on to your shorts
              '77 cj-5,
              '78 j-10,(not running)
              '79 J-10 360ci,t400,D300, SOA-D60w/ARB, 14B w/Detroit,4:56s, 37" TRXUS
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              • j20brett
                360 AMC
                • Jul 05, 2006
                • 2963

                #8
                found them locally at a diff shop for $10 a set
                Kaiser - 1981 J20 115" WB - 5.3l/4l60E/np241c/3-link hp60 spooled/Leafs 14-bolt detroit/5.13's/40's

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                • Sambo
                  AMC 4 OH! 1
                  • Sep 25, 2001
                  • 3585

                  #9
                  be sure and use loctite as well with new bolts.did they give you any insight as to what torque to use?
                  77 chero DEAD.
                  84wag,360,tf727,???! possiblities are d300 flipped and a ford d44 hp with coils

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                  • #10
                    yeah, that shouldn't have snapped. Yeah, it's a pain but better to find it now then later

                    You are supposed to use new bolts everytime but I have heard of using the old ones without much issue.
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                    • Dirtball
                      304 AMC
                      • Apr 10, 2006
                      • 2079

                      #11
                      This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.
                      Paul
                      1979 Cherokee N/T
                      360/TH400/Qtrac/D44s/rear Lock-right
                      6 inch Hell Creek all spring lift
                      34x10.50 Super Swamper LTBs
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                      • JeepsAndGuns
                        AMC 4 OH! 1
                        • Jul 18, 2003
                        • 4586

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dirtball
                        This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.
                        You only have to remove the ring gear if its too thick to get the cross pin out. If the cross pin will slide past the gear, then you dont even have to pull the carrier.
                        79 Cherokee Chief 401/T18/D20, MPFI fuel injection, hydroboost, otherwise stock.
                        Future mods: Caddy 500/NV4500/NP205, HP D60 front D60 smooth botom rear, 5.13 gears, 35x12.50's on H1 beadlock wheels. Warn M12000 winch.
                        93 Wrangler 4.6 stroker/AX15/NP231,SYE,CV, OME 2.5 lift, front hub conversion/big brakes, 31X10.50's Warn M10000 winch.

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                        • deadironrat
                          258 I6
                          • Mar 25, 2008
                          • 382

                          #13
                          As far as I know though you will have pull the ring gear on all D44s to get the cross shaft out. Does anyone know if you have to on the amc 20 or D60?
                          Jacob Z

                          1984 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, work in progress

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                          • Dirtball
                            304 AMC
                            • Apr 10, 2006
                            • 2079

                            #14
                            Supposedly, on some 44s you can manage it without taking out the ring gear IF you can get the roll pin out and IF the ring is small enough to get the cross pin out. It's supposed to depend on the gearing. High gears you maybe can; low gears you can't. My 3.54s are right at the cutoff, but I'm expecting to have to take the carrier out.
                            Paul
                            1979 Cherokee N/T
                            360/TH400/Qtrac/D44s/rear Lock-right
                            6 inch Hell Creek all spring lift
                            34x10.50 Super Swamper LTBs
                            http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t/100_1394.jpg
                            http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t/100_1390.jpg
                            http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...100_1387-2.jpg

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                            • Casey
                              • Oct 08, 2003
                              • 6151

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dirtball
                              This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.
                              I've installed at least a dozen of them after removing the carrier and then reused the ring gear bolts. Never had a problem, yet.
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