International Full Size Jeep Association
Home Forums Reader's Rigs Tech Library Trail Stories FSJ-List
International Full Size Jeep Association  

Go Back   International Full Size Jeep Association > Tire Kickin' > General FSJ Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21  
Old 04-18-2008, 08:40 AM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
Quote:
Originally Posted by KaiserMan
Cool. Thanks.

sucks to hear about the trans btw.

so what that rod that goes down the frame rail? you have the L pivot arm too if you want it. In a hurry? I will be attacking all that pretty soon before the yellowjackets wake up. $5 for packaging and shipping on your dime when its pulled should cover it.
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .


Last edited by Gambler68 : 07-15-2009 at 08:26 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-18-2008, 02:00 PM
willam's Avatar
willam willam is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Jul 12, 2005
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 805
Thom,

Elliot posted this link. Thought I would pass it on, give you a few idea's.

Basicly, power steering for a cJ, uses a Power Steering box with the pitman arm facing foward. No Frame/foward crossmember modifications.
Power steering for your 63.

PS - Sorry to here about the transmission. glad it worked out without to many hassles. Buying one used is always a crapshoot.

http://hermtheoverdriveguy.com/index.htm
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 16a68ef0.jpg (30.4 KB, 74 views)

Last edited by willam : 04-18-2008 at 02:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-24-2008, 09:09 AM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
That power steering set up looks pretty interesting.

I was also thinking of using a Ford assist cylinder, as found on early 60's trucks. I think that's similar to what Jeep used.

Not much progress. I got my transfercase all back together, and it works! Didn't even have any left over parts. So now my tranny and t-case is all set. Still have to go look at my buddies 350, figure out a radiator and then swap the drive traings.

I'm going to figure out how to make the shifter work around the TH400 later this week.

Ryan, just one more thing I could use. The half moon style D20 shifter from your J300, if you want to part with it. Someone welded mine up.
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-24-2008, 09:15 AM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
Hmm I'll take a look at it. With the swap the tcase got moved torwards the pass side and they hacked shyt up a little, not sure if its still using stock parts.

Btw I ended up selling the whole rear half of the glad cab and roof, but I still have cab corners from the 82 and of course your steering parts if you want them. Shoot if you want to pay the shipping you can have the steering box for free I'm just junking it eventually. My 68 has different manual steering.
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-24-2008, 09:57 AM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
lucky today's a jeep day


it attaches via that bracket on the back of the bellhousing. My 68 has a proper rail and box system that you usually see. It's obviously an easy pull if you need it quick.
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .


Last edited by Gambler68 : 07-15-2009 at 08:26 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-28-2008, 08:56 PM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Hmm, that shifter looks like a home made job. The stock one for a 65 has a smooth curve to it.

A little update.

I made a bracket to hold the lower part of my shift linkage to the tranny. It actualy mounts using the bolts that old the tranny mount to the adapter.

Anyone see a problem putting the kind of leverage it would take to shift the t-case on the aluminum adapter?

I can't actualy get the thing to shift, but I don't have the upper linkage (with the actual shift lever) hooked up, s I may just not have the right leverage. Anyone have a good pic (from your Jeep or a TSM) of the 63-65 D20 shifter?.
I'm going to try adjusting it a little.

Also, my friend with the 350 just picked up a 73 K20. 400 motor, not sure what else. Should be a Th350 or SM465 with an NP205, right? At any rate, he said I could have the 400, and anything else I want from it for $250. He will be getting the truck home tomorrow, or Thurday. I hope to have the engine home this weekend.

I'll get some pics of my tranny and t-case (Bolted together so I could get the lower shift brackets into place).
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-06-2008, 07:34 PM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Okay, so I finally have a working column in the 63. I hade to make a saginaw auto column work in the 63.

Here's how I did it.

First off, i wanted to use the early turn signal switch, since it had no hazard flasher built into it. I'm not running flashers, as the truck never came with them. The old style blinker switch mounts the same way, but the lever does not. It mounts via a bolt that runs though the center of the flasher switch. The bolt runs into the lever, which has a threaded hole in it.

I had to grind the cast tube on back if the switch housing that the newer lever runs through in order to mount it.





You can see the old switch mounted in place. I used the newer horn contact, as I would have had to drill and tap holes through the switch housing in order to use the old style.



You can see the cast indent for the gear selector window, and the lock plate for the shifter on the back of the switch housing. Iw ould have been inpossile to duplicate these on the older housing, like I had orginally planned.



I had to cut 3/8" off the bottom of the outer tube, and 1/4" (no pic) off the inner tube.



This bump had to be ground off (other column I have, I had all ready removed it when I decided tto take a pic)



Since there is no lower steering shaft on the ross box, the steering column must float in order to make a proper fit to the box. A small nub (found only on the early trucks) on the bracket that holds the column to teh dash fits in to this slot, so the column can't spin left or right. I cut a slightly longer one with my angle grinder.



I also had to use the older, two-peice lower bushing, as it is specific to the older shaft. The new bushing is one piece, and held in with two screws, the old one it held in with four (two per bushing half). I could only drill one hole for the upper half though, as the second woukld have been in the opening for the shift lever and spacer.





I don't have pics of these, but I also had to grind the welds off of, and remove the floor mount on the newer column. I used the old floating mount from the 63's column. The inner and outer tubes are different, in the fact that the slot(outer tube) and bracket(inner tube) for the NSS switch are in different areas, that why I didn't just use the old coulmn tubes.

I'll get pics of it installed tomorrow.
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-08-2008, 09:03 PM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Okay, some more pics.


Th400/D20 and my creeper with the cheap plastic casters.


Early shift linkage.


Other side of early shift linkage. You can see the 3/16" plate I made to mount it to the Th400 to D30 adpater.


Running a GM 4x4 case, and inpection cover, as can be seen by the cast in bosses that attach the torque rods.


Can't find my 1 1/8" socket to secure the front yoke back on.


Scored this for $40 at a swap meet. Came off an early F250 with Ross steering gear. This is a Ford power steering set up, minus the pump. Jeep used a similar set up. Hydro piston bots to the front axle and tire rod, and the hydro assist box/drag link replaces the stock drag link.
All the hoses are new.


Scored 10 of these lights at the same swap meet. Bought enough to make one nice set, and I have a complete wirig harness that I hae to put back on (I cut the connectors off so I would not have to drill big holes in the roof).






This is the worst one, of course I managed to put it on the outside


With the visors up, you can only see the middle backing plate/wire.


I need a new indicator lense.


The original wheel off of my 71. It only has 41K miles on it. Painted black.


Besides the peeling paint (easy fix) the cluster is in nice shape.
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-09-2008, 07:34 AM
red mistress's Avatar
red mistress red mistress is offline
304 AMC
 
Join Date: Sep 13, 2007
Location: TX
Posts: 2,291
PTO

I've wondered how/why Jeep didn't keep the TC shifter on the drivers side of tranny hump. Sure seems easier than reaching across the seat.

Are you going to put the Ramsey dual out put PTO on this truck?
__________________
67 Gladiator 15K J3000 AMC 327, PTO, 35" BFG's
69 Jeepster 8701 convertible
80 Honcho Sportside
82 CJ-8 75K org SR decals
82 Cheroeke Laredo 24K
83 CJ-8 50K 401, ARB60's, F&R Winch, 38"
84 CJ-7 38K Garnet Int., Jeep 8274 winch
84 CJ-8 mud Scrambler
87 J 20 36K smooth alum camper & boat rack.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-09-2008, 08:20 AM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
Tom-
I found a crescent shaped shifter attached to an aluminum spacer in my stuff. I'll post a pic up and maybe it'll work for ya later today.

Dayum man, that's some fanatical steering column work you did
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .

Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 05-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Mikel's Avatar
Mikel Mikel is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 09, 2000
Location: New Haven, CT
Posts: 6,311
Looks good! Can't wait to see it finished
__________________
1969 M715 6x6
1963 J300 Swivel frame
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-09-2008, 04:51 PM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by red mistress
I've wondered how/why Jeep didn't keep the TC shifter on the drivers side of tranny hump. Sure seems easier than reaching across the seat.

Are you going to put the Ramsey dual out put PTO on this truck?

I think they did away with the driver side shifter because the linkage is poo. Losts of room for slop and hard shifting.

probably going to add the Ramsey PTO. Maybe run a those dump cylinders with it.

Ryan, that would be great. The p/o was a hack, don't know why he saw fit to add a glob of booger weld to the poor shifter.
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-09-2008, 05:40 PM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
no idea what it goes too.
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .


Last edited by Gambler68 : 07-15-2009 at 08:26 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-10-2008, 01:45 PM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Yup, that's the shifter, and it looks like the T90-GM bell adapter. You could probably sell that to a little Jeeper. That's waht I hope to do with mine.

Want to set the shifter aside with that steering drag link, and any cab corners you have in a pile? I'll take the bell crank if you want to pull it as well. I'll send you a PM this week, and we can figure out the details.

Thanks!
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
Sure thing man. If you need it you get the shifter, maybe I can unload the adaptor itself to a bjeeper.
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .

Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-19-2008, 08:33 AM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
So the donar rig is finally here. It turned out to be a 76 GMC K25. 400/TH400/NP203 D44HD/14b.

I messed around with the truck this morning, and got the motor to run for a few seconds. It died, and at that point the battery was pretty weak, so I salled it quites untill I charge it back up. But at least I know it runs.

It a Non-EGR, HEI 76 400 (I ran the numbers to be sure it was a 400). Suxs it turned out to be an NP203.

I want to get the truck running before I pull the motor (this weekend) and try to unlock the rear brakes.

Anyone want the 400/203? My buddy wants (still his truck, I just own the motor and front end) $100 for them.


400


High end Sierra Grande


A bit of work done on the J300. Note the original cane mirror I picked up for it.


My $50 bench from a 69 J2000. No more Pinto buckets.


NOS indicator (Thanks Roy)


Older projection that may end up on the 400. It's the type where you can adjust the settings without a computer.
(again, thanks Roy!)
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-21-2008, 08:48 PM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Well it looks like the 400 is going to the machine shop this coming Tuesday. I did a compression test and these are the results:

1-120
2-90
3-85
4-60
5-100
6-85
7-80
8-70

Not good numbers at all. I'm hoping I won't have to bore the block, but I won't know untill it's apart.
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-21-2008, 09:42 PM
Gambler68's Avatar
Gambler68 Gambler68 is offline
Rabble Rouser
 
Join Date: Feb 29, 2004
Location: Ignacio, Colorado, USA
Posts: 14,081
Those are some sweet parts! Sucks to hear about the motor in the GMC :/
__________________
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .

Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 08-13-2008, 09:39 AM
KaiserMan's Avatar
KaiserMan KaiserMan is offline
I got the Willys....
 
Join Date: Jun 21, 2005
Location: Huntington, Ma.
Posts: 8,709
Here is a link to some updates. Going to run an 8' Thriftside box. I AM buying the bumper.

More on the 400 tomorrow. It's done, sort of.......
__________________
Thomas Russell
1975 Chevy K20 8400lb GVW Camper Special
1971 Gladiator
J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 09-04-2008, 11:55 AM
oldsixinarow oldsixinarow is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 27, 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 73
Any update on this project? That NOS shift indicator looks nice.
__________________
Roy
1972 J2000 Thriftside
Gathering Parts for a 4.0/AX15 swap
1997 ZJ Laredo 4.0 DD
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
corner corner