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Old 09-18-2010, 09:11 PM
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Hi all,

Name is Jay, and I just picked up a 87 Grand Wagoneer last sunday and just found this site. I'm a 4th year mechanical engineering student and so obviously cars and trucks are my thing. My main driver is my 97 ZJ so i got a thing for jeeps.



I picked up the GW for 600 bucks (down from 1300) and not for sure what i want to do with her. I spent about a half a day to get her running when even though the guy i got it from assured me it would start. No gas, broke gas line, and crossed wires on the solenoid were a few of the main problems. Once fixed she fired right up and drove beautiful. After looking on this site for the past few days, I thinking of doing a bit of restoring and mild wheeler.






As you can see it has about 97000 on the clock and runs great. Interior needs some work, exterior needs some paint, but the best part of the jeep is no rust on the rockers, doors, or any panels.

So I'm sure I will be asking questions as I go and actually I already have one.



Why the heck is there a perfect circle hole in the roof? Right where the plastic bag is (stops rain water). Its is right between the driver's and passenger's seat.

So thanks for you help and hopefully getting to know my GW better with your guy's help.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:15 PM
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Very nice!!!!

And welcome from MI, where you at....?

Super Nice ZJ TOO, I got a soft spot for ZJ's.......
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:17 PM
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Welcome and looks like a good rig to start with!
The hole in the roof may be a PO's way of putting a CB antenna in, at least thats why I have a hole in my roof....
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:18 PM
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Welcome to the land of empty pockets and unfinished projects...

One of the PO's probably had a CB antenna mounted there and took it out when they took the CB.
Looks like a nice start, Congrats.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:22 PM
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Good score. Keep us posted.

The hole could be for an old CB antenna mount or even a spot light?
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:23 PM
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Very nice!!!!

And welcome from MI, where you at....?

Super Nice ZJ TOO, I got a soft spot for ZJ's.......


Sorry updated location. I got to College - MTU Houghton MI, and live in Suring WI. I love my ZJ, dont know what i would do with out it.


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Welcome and looks like a good rig to start with!
The hole in the roof may be a PO's way of putting a CB antenna in, at least thats why I have a hole in my roof....


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Welcome to the land of empty pockets and unfinished projects...

One of the PO's probably had a CB antenna mounted there and took it out when they took the CB.
Looks like a nice start, Congrats.

Yeah I kinda thought that, but was hoping it had something to do with the headliner sense its missing. Oh well.

So far got the wiper motor working, spray motor working, rear door hatch to work, and rear window. Total cost for all, nothing. Tomorrow is to get the seat controls working.

Thanks for the comments guys.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:39 PM
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Old 09-19-2010, 01:19 PM
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Anyone know of a good place for a how to on seat controls? I can already see i have a broken wire but, wondering if a fuse might be out becuase neither side works, and haven't found a nice schematic of the fuse block.

Also to replace the rear window up and down switch, do you have to take apart the entire dash? It kinda looks that way to me but wondering if Im just missin a screw or something.

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Welcome to the forum but looking at all that nasty white stuff in your 1st pic scares the daylights out of this thin blooded, African living Englishman!

Nice wheels though!
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Old 09-19-2010, 01:39 PM
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Check Tom's site for electrics diagrams.
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Old 09-19-2010, 01:53 PM
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Old 09-19-2010, 02:28 PM
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Figured out the window switch. Take out the gauge pod and you have side access to those switches. I took off the switch and the key doesnt work, but with the switch connected key works. If the switch doesnt work but the back door key does, that means a bad switch right??

Thanks for the oljeep.com site. He has lots of good info on there. Seats are gonna be more then a few hour project, found some corroded wires that need to be spliced.

Thanks again for the welcomes. The white stuff aint so bad. Just a pain when you gotta shovel it.
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:03 PM
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Welcome! From a troll - Kalamazoo native. WI resident now. Had some friends in college that knew some Houghton/MTU folks.

Nice work getting all that electrical stuff to work for $0! Wanna come to Sheboygan (WI) next?.....
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:22 PM
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Welcome from Sunny Az. Got rid of a ZJ to get my first FSJ. Nice find for 600 bones. Love the ZJ makes me miss my old one
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:34 PM
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@Ben:
Yeah I might be willing to help ya out. Wont be down there til thanksgiving or christmas though. School always gets in the way of fun things.

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Gotta love the ZJs. The ride and comfort are great and goes like hell through it all.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:20 AM
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I hear you, but don't head south just on my behalf. But if you happen to head towards Milwaukee and think you'll have a spare minute or two let me know and we'll figure a way to meet up. Thanks for the offer!
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:06 AM
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So today I found out I can get antique plates and insurance on this thing so . Ill do this til I move to MN to start working.

Also looking at ripping the Passenger seat out to get the motor/controls working. Anyone have any tips, suggestions, write-ups, to get these back to working order?

Is the smog pump worth keeping? Mine is still bolted in place, no belt running to it, and all lines looked capped.

I have a question about a dash wire, but pictures will help with that. So stay tuned for tonight.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:09 AM
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:45 AM
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Welcome to the forum Jay and also to the sound of money flying out of your wallet. On that air pump... If you do not need to get emissions inspections, it can go away along with about 40 feet of vacuum hose and associated valves, etc. under the hood. Are the metal tubes still on the exhaust manifolds? If yes, those will need to be plugged or sealed off. Some people cut and roll and crimp the tubes but they will eventually rust out. You can get brass plugs to replace the hollow bolts for the tubes.
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How about some info on that F-series in the garage? Is it yours too?



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