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Old 06-08-2019, 09:42 PM
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Curious.
How do you figure that the cap, rotor, plugs, and wires are all original? Just because they say Motorcraft?
I'm serious.

Plug wires say 1988 on them.
Plugs look like typical 50k plugs to me. I've done a LOT of tune-ups.
Cap & rotor same deal they look the part of 50k.
I'd bet money they are all original from the factory parts.

EDIT:
Even if someone replaced the wires which I do not believe.
Just checked them in dark and it's a light show on all 8.
Plugs tell me they have been bad a loooong time.
Water spray and they arc way worse.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:17 AM
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I guess the good news in all this is it's all pretty basic/easy stuff (except that 'vert top part, that sucks). It should also run night/day better when you are done and you have probably found 1.5MPG gains in all this.

Also, in the grand scheme of things, you still have a sweet roadtripper with 50k miles on it. It would be worse if you paid big bucks for that car and then found out something like:
a) Odometer broke 75k miles ago
b) it was bent
c) it was full of bondo
I'll take crappy maintenance over crappy body work any day. It has obviously been neglected... but it's only been neglected for 50k miles.... and 30 years.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:21 AM
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Haha! I just realized! In your driveway, you now have representation from all of the big 3, and AMC! LOL!
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:01 PM
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I guess the good news in all this is it's all pretty basic/easy stuff (except that 'vert top part, that sucks). It should also run night/day better when you are done and you have probably found 1.5MPG gains in all this.

Also, in the grand scheme of things, you still have a sweet roadtripper with 50k miles on it. It would be worse if you paid big bucks for that car and then found out something like:
a) Odometer broke 75k miles ago
b) it was bent
c) it was full of bondo
I'll take crappy maintenance over crappy body work any day. It has obviously been neglected... but it's only been neglected for 50k miles.... and 30 years.

But my issue is the original owner did not intentionally neglect it.
Brought it to same shop as my 84yr old uncle for work.
They were told my 76yr old mother was planning to drive it from AZ to MN.
The quality of their work is highly questionable and the fact that no tuneup was done boggles the freakin mind!
Not to mention the rotten exhaust which would likely fall apart on a lengthy road trip.
My 84yr old uncle just paid $1200 to this shop.
It was in there previously and still waiting to see what he paid/had done.
They have been bringing it to this shop for many many years.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:09 PM
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Yeah, totally.

Is your uncle gonna let you call that "mechanic" to "explain" some of this?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:36 PM
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:51 PM
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Yeah, totally.

Is your uncle gonna let you call that "mechanic" to "explain" some of this?

Nope...he's afraid I'll rip the guy a new one and he is correct.
It was his $$$ so not much I can do other than relay the info and give my opinion that his mechanic SUCKS!

He is getting all the invoices of work done by this shop to this car.
Have to double check everything they touched.

On a happier note got some Ford 9mm plug wires installed.
No more audible arcing or light show
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:26 PM
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I like that mustang
always liked those years

interior looks like 50k for sure
because
white is not forgiving
and that one looks really good.

nice of you to get it in good shape for your mom.
must be a cool mom to like cars E-nuff to buy and ship
to have it when she visits

she must be a car enthusiast too.

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Old 06-11-2019, 06:12 PM
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My mom is awesome yes!
She has always been there to help me so figure it is the least I can do...
My dad worked @ several different dealerships over years and was always a car guy.
He/she owned some very cool cars over the years.

I did influence her decision to buy this one but plan originally was her driving it from AZ to MN.
She changed her mind and my uncle shipped it here to CA.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:11 PM
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Plug wires say 1988 on them.
Plugs look like typical 50k plugs to me. I've done a LOT of tune-ups.
Cap & rotor same deal they look the part of 50k.
I'd bet money they are all original from the factory parts.

EDIT:
Even if someone replaced the wires which I do not believe.
Just checked them in dark and it's a light show on all 8.
Plugs tell me they have been bad a loooong time.
Water spray and they arc way worse.
Thanks for that info. I didn't know that stuff and hadn't looked too closely at the wires yet. Just been busy with other things.

I have only done tune ups on what I've got(which includes a lot of small engine equipment and garden tractors), still couldn't gauge the plugs like that though. They can look worn, but I couldn't guess how many hours or miles on it. For the most part, plugs that I pull out just look used to me Well, other than a set I pulled out of the Cherokee after I got that. That thing had a special set of 2 conductor plugs on it and the center electrode on them things were all buried into the porcelain. Those things probably had 100K on them. It sure ran ALOT better with new standard copper Champions in it.

This is the first vehicle I have come across that had numbers on the plug wires and just like your's, a YEAR. The car appears to have had 1 tune up in its life... in 1989. Wonder what it will look like if I do the mist test in the dark... I don't hear any arcing while its running. Cap and rotor are worn as well, but don't look terrible.
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Old 06-12-2019, 03:43 PM
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We'll agree to disagree there...






1. I would never disagree with you man.




2. You can always fix cars, Ya can't always fix people.



3. You can always sell the cars, can't sell people. (unless you have connections)



4. Lubing your cars rear end is fine, doing it to people can't get you into trouble.



5. Usually easier to get a head job on your car than......well
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:51 AM
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The good thing is she decided to ship it to you. You might have gotten a call about it being broke down in Wichita.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:33 AM
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I hope karma kicks in hard
on those who treated your mom and uncle poorly
by charging them so much for what they did and did not do.....

just wished I was there to see it.

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Old 06-13-2019, 01:21 PM
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It's just ridiculous...pretty much everything this "mechanic" did is poorly done.

Today had to fix the leaking throttle body spacer gasket.
The guy didn't clean the spacer/throttle body/intake surfaces well.
Old gasket material still stuck on them.

He likely used one of those roloc discs and made the surface all wavy.
Had to take a file/sandpaper and make them flat again.
Took me like an hour @ least he didn't f-up the intake manifold

Didn't clean the studs, threads, crud from the EGR valve in the spacer, or the inside of the throttle body.
Just a lazy @!$* and piss poor workmanship once again.

Looking @ invoice $358.54 went for valve cover/intake/tb gaskets.
What a DBAG!





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Old 06-14-2019, 04:32 PM
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Nope...nothing wrong with this exhaust.

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Old 06-15-2019, 12:57 PM
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BBBWWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Anyone notice his 5.0 had California plates, even though he's "singing" about Miami/Florida?
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Old 06-15-2019, 01:35 PM
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Agh...couldn't bring myself to watch more than a few seconds of that.
In '91 I was ripping around in a 5.0 though.
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