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Old 04-15-2012, 08:42 PM
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LED 1157 Bulb Conversion - Front Parking Lamp

Has anyone installed Vision X LED HIL-1157W bulbs in front park/signal housings?
They state that it MIGHT be necessary to also install their resistor kit to help slow down the flashing rate of the signal due to less reistance of the LED's versus OE bulbs....has that been the case if anyone has done this conversion?
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Do not do the resistor kit

Go to any Parts store & get an electronic flasher & install it in the place of the old flasher done deal for you to go all led. The resistor kits are a joke. Then you can use any bulb. Did mine over 2 years ago.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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Thanks lads...really appreciate it.
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x2 on the electric flasher.
I've got led bulbs in every socket except for headlights. Te ones in the dash even dim without the need for a resistor. Close to 3 years now and not a single issue.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:53 PM
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does that plug into fuse panel?
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does that plug into fuse panel?
Sure does.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:31 AM
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x2 on the electric flasher.
I've got led bulbs in every socket except for headlights. Te ones in the dash even dim without the need for a resistor. Close to 3 years now and not a single issue.

Interesting, I put LED bulbs in my front parking lamps and lost my side-marker lights - then I remembered that the side markers ground thru the parking lamp bulbs - that is why the flash together with the lights off and opposite light on.
LED's don't act as a ground like a fillement bulb does when not lit - at least not the ones I bought.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:02 AM
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x2 on the electric flasher.
I've got led bulbs in every socket except for headlights. Te ones in the dash even dim without the need for a resistor. Close to 3 years now and not a single issue.

gees i love the idea of LED lighting. I can't wait to do it. Bigger fish to fry at present. One day i'll do it. Great info here
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put LEDS in the side marker!
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put LEDS in the side marker!

you still lose your ground, and you have to watch polarity on then, bulbs don't care with post get pos/neg - LED's do

look at the diagram on an 81
http://oljeep.com/gw/elec/81/81_FSJ_...agramPage1.jpg

the side marked are tied into the the pos on the 2 filiments of the parking lights, with no power a standard bulb becomes a resistor thru the filliment
creating a ground connection, and the side marker pos/neg feed changes dependent on which wire is feeding power to the parking light.

Just putting this out there so people can research what they need so all the lights work properly.

and X3 on the electronic flashers - they are the only way to go even with standard bulbs
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Interesting, I put LED bulbs in my front parking lamps and lost my side-marker lights - then I remembered that the side markers ground thru the parking lamp bulbs - that is why the flash together with the lights off and opposite light on.
LED's don't act as a ground like a fillement bulb does when not lit - at least not the ones I bought.

That is interesting!
Please tell me more about how your side markers are grounded "thru the parking lamp bulb"
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:40 PM
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None of this happened on mine I have all leds

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you still lose your ground, and you have to watch polarity on then, bulbs don't care with post get pos/neg - LED's do

look at the diagram on an 81
http://oljeep.com/gw/elec/81/81_FSJ_...agramPage1.jpg

the side marked are tied into the the pos on the 2 filiments of the parking lights, with no power a standard bulb becomes a resistor thru the filliment
creating a ground connection, and the side marker pos/neg feed changes dependent on which wire is feeding power to the parking light.

Just putting this out there so people can research what they need so all the lights work properly.

and X3 on the electronic flashers - they are the only way to go even with standard bulbs

Sounds like something isn't right.
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I bought LED side markers ... have not put them on yet ... noticed yesterday though ... that my flashers work, but my turn signals dont work
what is up with that!
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:13 PM
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This is getting more interesting by the post. I'm going to hold off until the dust settles here ...This is all great stuff and definitely worth learning.

So if I replace my front signal/park bulbs AND the front side marker/signal lamps with LED's and also install the electronic flasher, I should be good to go or is this ground thing going to still be an issue?...and if so, what is the fix.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:18 PM
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Interesting

[quote=Logans Run]I bought LED side markers ... have not put them on yet ... noticed yesterday though ... that my flashers work, but my turn signals dont work
what is up with that![/quo

Do you have an electronic flasher?
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I seriously doubt it
.. but I have not installed the LEDs yet
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:49 PM
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serehill...what make of bulb did you install?
One of the sites had some tips about which bulbs to buy and stated that buy red for red lens and amber for amber lens etc. Something about the light frequency being blocked ie if using white bulb in red lens or white with amber lens.
The only make I've looked at so far is the Vision X and their '360' series 1156 and 1157 and 194's.
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I had read about the color issues

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serehill...what make of bulb did you install?
One of the sites had some tips about which bulbs to buy and stated that buy red for red lens and amber for amber lens etc. Something about the light frequency being blocked ie if using white bulb in red lens or white with amber lens.
The only make I've looked at so far is the Vision X and their '360' series 1156 and 1157 and 194's.

Believe it or not I did put amber in the front & red in the tails but I used whites in the side markers & had no issues but I really like the amber & red I used the multiple bulb units. I bought everything from these guys. After I bought the chinese junk first. I haven't lost a bulb in 2 years. Not all leds are the same.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/

I used these: Yes thery are expensive. I went the chinese route & they started burning out. Now they have lasted over 2 years & are brighter than any incadescent.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2F115 x-x12x19.htm#photos

Here's the diference in color. Go to this link scroll down & there is a link to selct color it will show you what the white bulb looks like.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...rake-turn.html
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Ya that's the site I looked at last night...their pointers...

"Which Color LEDs should I use?

For best results the LED color should be the same as the lens color or if bulb is behind a clear lens, use the appropriate color for turn and brake light functions. As an example: a red lens will filter out all but the red portion of the light so if the light is all red, none or very little light will be blocked by the lens. The light from a White LED contains very little light in the red portion of the visible spectrum so most of the light would be filtered out by a red lens."

Thanks for the links serehill...more research to be done on my part....now I'm off to bed...thanks again.
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