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Old 11-12-2008, 10:35 AM
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Upholstery questions, mostly door panels

I'm going to start doing some of the upholstery since the Cherokee is gutted and the weather is getting cold enough to move some projects inside. Last night, I removed the vinyl and fabric from the rotted door panels. The vinyl is in excellent shape. The fabric insert is faded and dirty. I want to substitute something else. My questions are:

Best material for backer board. I could get OEM upholstery board, but I hear people have success with masonite and FRP. Will glue stick to FRP? I actually have a scrap on a job enough for 2 door panels. Is masonite better since I can staple it? I don't want something that will warp and mold.


The vinyl has some areas with deformities and wrinkles. Will a hairdryer smooth them out?

Has anyone came across a fabric close to the vertical striping on a '79? I saw some automotive fabric online, but was a solid color.

When I use spray glue, do I just do the edges or spray the entire area. The original panel was fused to the backerboard where the designs were heat pressed in.

Finally, if I order a complete carpet kit for a cherokee, does it include the tailgate panel with the backerboard?

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Old 11-12-2008, 10:46 AM
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The kit does include the carpeted tailgate panel. I have the black BJs kit in my Cherk, and it doesn't suck.

I'd get that blueboard that interior shops use. There's also a ton of great doorpanel links via google, you can do some fun stuff fairly easy.

Why not try a leather insert? There's tons of 80's leather jackets at thrift stores just begging to be cut up.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:12 AM
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The kit does include the carpeted tailgate panel. I have the black BJs kit in my Cherk, and it doesn't suck.

I'd get that blueboard that interior shops use. There's also a ton of great doorpanel links via google, you can do some fun stuff fairly easy.

Why not try a leather insert? There's tons of 80's leather jackets at thrift stores just begging to be cut up.

I was actually thinking of some tan denim inserts, like the Levis interior. Too bad my interior is not blue, otherwise my drawer has an ample supply of blue ratty demin.

I may go browse the fabric store tonight. I'm not too interested in a purists interior, but I want it to look period correct. The fabric on the seats is a mess too, so whatever I do to the door panels has to carry to the seats.
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:36 AM
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Carrhart tan demin would rock We need a Carrhart Ltd. Edition, sure beats 11oz denim!
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:42 AM
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my panels aren't faded or anything but I was considering getting some really thin plywood and replacing the cardboard part of the door panels.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:46 PM
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Carhart tan would be neat. My problem is this is the color I have to work with, kind of a orangish or reddish brown.

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Old 11-12-2008, 01:00 PM
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I have templates for all the backer boards and kickpanels
Masonite or ABS, what ever you want.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:31 AM
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I have templates too. Kaiser panels are a slightly different size than AMC's.

Anyway, I bought a piece of 1/8" temp masonite. For $6, I think I'll give it a shot. It will make 4 door panels. I'll put a coat of sealer on them first.
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:48 PM
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Carhart tan would be neat. My problem is this is the color I have to work with, kind of a orangish or reddish brown.

Hey some people would KILL for that color interior...I HATE tan interiors but its what I always get stuck with...
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:02 PM
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OH! OH! OH! I had an idea...get some reddish brown corduroys from a thrift store and make some inserts. Keep it 70's man...
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:18 PM
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OH! OH! OH! I had an idea...get some reddish brown corduroys from a thrift store and make some inserts. Keep it 70's man...

Uhh..I kinda like that idea. Off to the thrift or fabric store tonight.

I love this interior color, but it's sure hard to find a match for the colors. I spraypainted a tan headliner with a Rustoleum designer paint from Home Depot. I think it was called Brick, but it came out almost exactly like the original color.

The green on the seats is not the camera. They faded from the sun. Whatever I do for the door panels I want to copy for the seats. I even thought of a laminate insert in the panels. There's some neat designs out now and a cabinet guy I know can get me small scraps.

I haven't found a carpet sample online that matches yet.

If anybody knows exactly what this interior color scheme is called, let me know.
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:02 PM
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You hate tan interiors, I've been lookin for tan for a year now, all I find is Blue ! Not gonna go well with white and orange paint
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:29 PM
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all I find is Blue ! Not gonna go well with white and orange paint

It will if you live in Boise

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Old 11-13-2008, 04:46 PM
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:33 PM
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I have templates for all the backer boards and kickpanels
Masonite or ABS, what ever you want.
I would definately appreciate them if you want to send em to me
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:27 AM
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Wow don't suppose I could grab those from you as well?
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:57 AM
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:26 AM
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No luck at the fabric store or thrift place. Nothing even close. They did have some denim and corduroy, but they only look like they will not hold up.

Maybe I'll just use hardboard and paint it to match.
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Try the upholstery section section of a mom & pop type of fabric store.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:07 PM
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I have a piece of "door skin". Its about an 1/8" thick panel and has a real pattern on it. Its a smooth surface to work with and easy to cut.
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