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Old 02-14-2014, 07:23 PM
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Just to give you reference, this is my Waggy on 30x9.50s with the 3" lift.


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Old 02-14-2014, 08:57 PM
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Just to give you reference, this is my Waggy on 30x9.50s with the 3" lift.

Yeah, that's really higher than I'd like to go...

I think I'm going to try the used J10 spring idea first. I may be relieving my bladder in the air circulation device, but we'll give it a shot. Depending on where that gets me, I'll decide if I should stay or go 2" BJ's...
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:30 PM
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You do know that pictures will be required....
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:48 PM
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You do know that pictures will be required....

You've seen my build thread, yes? Pictures I can do! LOL
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:52 PM
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Sorry, I got freaked out by the long weekend and got greedy......
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OK, who put the magnet under my moral compass?

1988 Grand Wagoneer. Going for the ultimate fishing rig.
I named her Tinkerbell after my cat. She always demands my attention and whenever I show her love, I come away bloody.
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Old 02-15-2014, 07:09 AM
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Bill,

I've seen your driveway. You need all the off-road capability you can get
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:02 AM
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I think you just called me old!

For the record, I am only 45. Any pics that show an old dude are of my father. On the other hand, I do need to be mindful of my wife's abilities. She is 5'7", but has Multiple Sclerosis. Still, climbing up and down is easier than climbing down into her little SLK230, her daily driver.

Nonetheless, if I read you correctly, I good used set of J series springs might mike a good alternative, yes?

Well Bill, I guess I did just call you old. I have put your Father's face on your build.

Sorry!
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:09 AM
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lol. i thought the same thing,wh.

pro,i'm 42,act like 4.2. we aint' old.


heck....i laugh at most of my 7 yr olds potty jokes....
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:29 AM
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Don't worry guys, after yesterday's surgery, I'm feeling a bit old!
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:39 AM
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Your tire fitment issues will be at the rear. NT wheel wells are not as deep and you cant fix it with rear flares. It might look better with a set of Tall Skinnies (33x10) that wont stick out past the rear door and fenders--Just my opinion.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:16 AM
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Your tire fitment issues will be at the rear. NT wheel wells are not as deep and you cant fix it with rear flares. It might look better with a set of Tall Skinnies (33x10) that wont stick out past the rear door and fenders--Just my opinion.

I am not sure what you mean. Are you saying they are not as tall, or that they don't go in toward the center as much? If the latter, by going with the J-Series rear axle, and a flare (which I can widen if need be) and cutting the rear quarter to match, I should be able to make more than enough room.
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:57 PM
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Don't worry guys, after yesterday's surgery, I'm feeling a bit old!

I just turned 50 and my oldest daughter just called from New Mexico to tell me I'm gonna be a granddad. Crap, where did I put my walker?
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:20 PM
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The measurement in between:

1) rear wheel wells distance, inside to inside;
2) rear wheel to wheel distance;
3) rear spring packs/perches/mounts inside-to inside;
4) rear frame rails inside to inside...

Are ALL narrower than in a J-truck.

The rear-wheel well is much too small to accommodate a 33"x12.5" tire without rubbing if using a J20 axle.

I had a 30x11.50 Swamper TSL on a 15x8" Chevy/Jeep Rally wheel and I mounted it on the rear of my 1976 Wag before I transformed it into a 4-door Wagoneer w/ J20 axels...it was tight. The J20 axels are 8" wider. You will have to cut ALOT of inner wheel-well out and re weld it to the body-side-wall inside to fill any gaps...before you add truck flares.

I have to do the same thing, except I increased my wheelbase from 108/9" to 115/6". So my rear Wag wheel-well is a bit funky right now in mid-project.


Some pics of the build to get truck-like handling and strength in a 4-door Wag body.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=155943

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Old 02-18-2014, 05:54 AM
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The measurement in between:

1) rear wheel wells distance, inside to inside;
2) rear wheel to wheel distance;
3) rear spring packs/perches/mounts inside-to inside;
4) rear frame rails inside to inside...

Are ALL narrower than in a J-truck.

The rear-wheel well is much too small to accommodate a 33"x12.5" tire without rubbing if using a J20 axle.

I had a 30x11.50 Swamper TSL on a 15x8" Chevy/Jeep Rally wheel and I mounted it on the rear of my 1976 Wag before I transformed it into a 4-door Wagoneer w/ J20 axels...it was tight. The J20 axels are 8" wider. You will have to cut ALOT of inner wheel-well out and re weld it to the body-side-wall inside to fill any gaps...before you add truck flares.

I have to do the same thing, except I increased my wheelbase from 108/9" to 115/6". So my rear Wag wheel-well is a bit funky right now in mid-project.


Some pics of the build to get truck-like handling and strength in a 4-door Wag body.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=155943

Ah, OK... Well, yes, a large portion of the quarter panel, and the adjoining inner fender will need to be cut out to accommodate the larger tire/axle combination. And I'll need to move the spring perches on the J-axle to be able to bolt the thing in.

I don't mean to be flippant, but I didn't exactly think I could just stick the flare on the outside of a Wagoneer's quarter panel and be done with it.
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