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  • Overland_az
    230 Tornado
    • Aug 29, 2017
    • 13

    350 SBC emissions

    Just picked up an 88 Grand Wagoneer with a Mr. Goodwrench 350 sbc crate engine swap. Originally had a 360...Vehicle came from northern az and didn't require emission testing up there. The area I'm at does require emission. Not sure what emissions stuff goes with a crate engine. Do I just throw a cat on it and call it a day? Or is it more in depth? Noob here lol
  • joe
    • Apr 28, 2000
    • 22392

    #2
    You're going to have to get "official" info from the the local county/state agency requiring your smog tests. Regardless of what the internet says, "they" are the ones that will allow or kill a non-factory motor swap.
    joe
    "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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    • Overland_az
      230 Tornado
      • Aug 29, 2017
      • 13

      #3
      Originally posted by joe
      You're going to have to get "official" info from the the local county/state agency requiring your smog tests. Regardless of what the internet says, "they" are the ones that will allow or kill a non-factory motor swap.

      I know that engine swaps have to be the same year or newer and you must carry over the emissions from the donor vehicle. This being a crate engine I'm not sure what emissions it should have but I guess I could ask a shop or the local agency for clarification.

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      • babywag
        out of order
        • Jun 08, 2005
        • 10286

        #4
        tread carefully rumor has it certain inspections will get it blacklisted in AZ and you won't be able to register it.

        easiest would be like an 88 gm tbi engine.
        not sure but suspect a carburetor won't fly?
        Tony
        88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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        • Overland_az
          230 Tornado
          • Aug 29, 2017
          • 13

          #5
          Originally posted by babywag
          tread carefully rumor has it certain inspections will get it blacklisted in AZ and you won't be able to register it.

          easiest would be like an 88 gm tbi engine.
          not sure but suspect a carburetor won't fly?


          Interesting... even thought the original 360 was carb. You think a 350 carb will bean issue?

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          • babywag
            out of order
            • Jun 08, 2005
            • 10286

            #6
            No 1988(or newer) GM 350 had a carb AFAIK.
            If they are following EPA regs engine has to be 1988 or newer and whatever emissions replacement came with would need to match.
            Telling them it's a "crate" engine may not be a good idea?
            Tony
            88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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            • Overland_az
              230 Tornado
              • Aug 29, 2017
              • 13

              #7
              Originally posted by babywag
              No 1988(or newer) GM 350 had a carb AFAIK.
              If they are following EPA regs engine has to be 1988 or newer and whatever emissions replacement came with would need to match.
              Telling them it's a "crate" engine may not be a good idea?

              Oh gotcha. Yeah I'm gonna take it to local shop that got my 73 J4000 to pass emissions and see what they say. I just want to get the registration and title in my name. Then the build can start.

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              • rang-a-stang
                Administrator
                • Oct 31, 2016
                • 5506

                #8
                In California, you can transfer title w/o a smog check but you can't register w/o a smog check. We are able to set it in a "Planned Non-Operation" status that basically hit's pause on the registration. Maybe you can do that too?
                Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
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                • Overland_az
                  230 Tornado
                  • Aug 29, 2017
                  • 13

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rang-a-stang
                  In California, you can transfer title w/o a smog check but you can't register w/o a smog check. We are able to set it in a "Planned Non-Operation" status that basically hit's pause on the registration. Maybe you can do that too?
                  I was reading over the Arizona revised statues and title transfer w/o registration is an option though hardly ever done. I'm taking it to a shop next week to see how in depth I'd have to go to get it through emissions. From there I'll determine which route I'm gonna go.

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                  • Crankyolman
                    350 Buick
                    • Sep 27, 2017
                    • 891

                    #10
                    Man, I feel sorry for you guys in states that require all that BS. I'm so glad I don't have to go through it.
                    '72 J4500

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                    • johnsonic
                      258 I6
                      • Mar 12, 2015
                      • 335

                      #11
                      It really depends on the state - you should look into the laws for your state. In Portland they just check to make sure you have a cat with an undercar mirror and do a sniffer test, they don't even pop the hood.
                      1984 GW
                      360
                      Comp 260H
                      Harland Sharp Roller Rockers
                      Wiseco -21cc Forged Pistons
                      Performer Intake
                      Holley SA 670
                      MSD 8523
                      Dakota Digital custom cluster
                      Serehill headlamp harness
                      NWMP aux tank

                      1987 GW deceased
                      ...but the parts live on

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