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  • Sunbeam Fanatic
    232 I6
    • Dec 19, 2009
    • 62

    Torque Convertor Stall RPM??

    Hi All,

    What stall rpm would you say is right for a mild build 401, I was thinking 1800?

    Many thanks
    1979 Cherokee Chief 2 door
    Original RHD for the UK market
    AMC401 - GM4L60E (uprated)
  • Ristow
    • Jan 20, 2006
    • 17292

    #2
    depends on what you wanna do with it. 727 or 400?
    Originally posted by Hankrod
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    • SC/397
      Administrator
      • Feb 01, 2010
      • 1024

      #3
      It is going to be a 4L60E I think. Wouldn't the 4L60E have a lock-up type converter as well?
      The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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      • Ristow
        • Jan 20, 2006
        • 17292

        #4
        yeah,but they have a lotta availability.

        if you built the 401 for torque,yah,a couple hundred over stock rpm would do it. no need to waste that off idle torque.
        Originally posted by Hankrod
        Ristows right.................again,


        Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
        ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


        Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
        I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

        It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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        • SC/397
          Administrator
          • Feb 01, 2010
          • 1024

          #5
          It is. 268H cam.
          The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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          • babywag
            out of order
            • Jun 08, 2005
            • 10286

            #6
            Stock stall on my Caprice is ~1400, aren't Jeeps much lower?
            I think on a mild 401 you'd want something similar or like Ristow said the you toss away that nice off idle torque?
            Tony
            88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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            • Sunbeam Fanatic
              232 I6
              • Dec 19, 2009
              • 62

              #7
              Does anyone know the stock stall rpm in the 390/TH400 Cherokee?
              1979 Cherokee Chief 2 door
              Original RHD for the UK market
              AMC401 - GM4L60E (uprated)

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              • rocklaurence
                Moderator

                Moderator
                • Jan 14, 2009
                • 1841

                #8
                When I buy stock rebuilt Converters for a 727 they are 1100-1300 stall. However, my Ford Explorer had close to a 1900 stall but with an electronic Lock-up. I think if you get close to an 1800 stall you'll be generating a lot of heat driving in-town.

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                • WrenchMonkey
                  232 I6
                  • Dec 15, 2016
                  • 223

                  #9
                  Driveline Pros At TCI And Pro Torque Offer Hard-Hitting Insight On Torque Converter Selection & Design.


                  Some real good info in there. If you were drag racing your best bet would be a pretty high stall, considering how late in the rpm band (most) 401's make peak HP, but most likely that's not the case. Higher the stall RPM the less gas mileage and the more likely you are to cook your transmission.

                  You'd be better suited to looking for a torque converter that will give you a high torque multiplier than for a later RPM stall. Take advantage of the 401's low-end torque AND the nifty property of torque multiplication that auto trans' have that manuals do not,
                  1977 J20 w/ the 360 V8 with 304 heads formerly known as "401"....
                  Edelbrock Performer, Street Demon Carb, HEI Distributor

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                  • 440sixpack
                    327 Rambler
                    • Jul 21, 2016
                    • 612

                    #10
                    For a mild build I wouldn't worry about it.

                    Cheap stalls are a joke. if you think you must have one buy a quality one with the correct flash . even then you'll constantly be reminded ever time you drive it why the factory didn't use one.

                    Stay stock I at all possible , these aren't drag cars.

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                    • rocklaurence
                      Moderator

                      Moderator
                      • Jan 14, 2009
                      • 1841

                      #11
                      The TCI Saturday Night Special is 1800-2000 stall. I'm thinking of using one of these in my tow rig. The 34" tires and 3.73's bog it down when taking off with a load. The 2000 stall will be effective bellow 45 mph and I wont have heat issues because I have an isolated trans cooler.

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                      • Sunbeam Fanatic
                        232 I6
                        • Dec 19, 2009
                        • 62

                        #12
                        It's the TCI 1800 stall that I finally went for, hopefully I'll find out soon how it performs!
                        1979 Cherokee Chief 2 door
                        Original RHD for the UK market
                        AMC401 - GM4L60E (uprated)

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                        • Ristow
                          • Jan 20, 2006
                          • 17292

                          #13
                          i ran a 3000 stall b&m on my old chev shortbox,with 2.73 gears for about a year before going to 3.73. i ran an RV cooler,and that fluid was as bright red a year later as when i put it in.

                          that thing cruised below stall,when i hit a hill the speed dropped and rpm stayed the same until i stepped on it,at which point it would rev a lil more,lol.
                          Originally posted by Hankrod
                          Ristows right.................again,


                          Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                          ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


                          Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                          I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

                          It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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                          • fulsizjeep
                            Señor Jackhead
                            • Aug 21, 2002
                            • 22496

                            #14
                            Random thoughts:
                            I use 800-1200 rpm stall converter. 3000 or 1800 is nutz for an FSJ. I am not drag racing them. Why are we talking about Chevys? Just my $.02.
                            Flint
                            Ran when parked.
                            http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac
                            88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
                            76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
                            http://eviltwinfab.com http://www.ttsfabworks.com

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                            • FSJunkie
                              The Nigel Tufnel of the FSJ world.
                              • Jan 09, 2011
                              • 4040

                              #15
                              The 1977 service manual for AMC cars (not Jeeps) says the AMC 360 with a TF-727 has a 1700-2000 RPM stall converter.
                              '72 Jeep Wagoneer Custom, 360 V8

                              I love how arguements end as soon as Ristow comments. Ristow is right...again.

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