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Old 09-27-2013, 04:13 PM
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Serious problem, anyone had this happen before?

Its been a while since I've been around here. I'm surprised to see IFSJA is still up and running, I'll try to drop in more.

Anyways, I got up this morning and went out to my jeep to drive to class and the first thing I find is my driver's wing window open, driver's window rolled down, door unlocked and open slightly. Some low-life broke the latch off of my wing window, unlocked the door and made off with a bunch of my stuff. Among the things that were taken were the whole center console that was resting on the bench, my most recent proof of registration, my hunter's license and validations, a lock box from the back filled with tools, my great grandpa's old tool box filled with a bunch of old tools including tools he made himself, and my harbor freight winch that I had mounted on a receiver plate. I'm getting kind of annoyed at people taking stuff that isn't theirs. I've already filed a police report and i'm meeting with my landlord for the apartment complex this afternoon. I know they've got some security cameras up so hopefully we can catch them. In the meantime i have to start searching for a replacement wing window as I now have no way of securely locking my jeep. so has anyone else had this happen before? Are there any ways to avoid it in the future? Thanks!
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:32 PM
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Other than not keeping anything of value in the rig when you are not in it, an alarm system that would wake the dead a hundred miles away. You can't keep it up for long, but night watch with a .357 as a deterent works well in some parts of the country.

You can always say it was a gang drive by when the cops do show up.........
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:18 PM
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That is a very very common thing to do with vehicles that have vent windows. In fact on our fleet of older work vans that was a trick we would do ourselves to leave the truck running while locking the doors.

Just get a locking storage solution that bolts to the metal dash/floor/rear cab and call it a day. Pretend like any vehicle that has a vent window is a topless baby jeep. In fact search out products for those baby jeeps and they will work perfect for you.

After that you can just leave the door unlocked so they won't break anything. If you are woried about them stealing the whole FSJ then install an ignition interrupter switch that cuts the voltage off to the ignition. Lable the switch something random or stick it in a hard to see spot and no one will know.
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:19 PM
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Other than not keeping anything of value in the rig when you are not in it, an alarm system that would wake the dead a hundred miles away. You can't keep it up for long, but night watch with a .357 as a deterent works well in some parts of the country.

You can always say it was a gang drive by when the cops do show up.........
I like your thinking with the .357. I'm only 19 so I'm not old enough to buy a handgun yet, but I sure do like shotguns. I may look in to an alarm system, considering it wouldn't dent my college budget too much.
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:04 PM
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Like others stated, a bolted down lock box that they sell for a baby jeep is what I got. It doesn't do much for the aftermarket stereo though. Last time someone broke into my jeep I was turkey hunting and heard my door open from across the ridge. I had a mature gobbler coming in and was in the field when I left to catch the criminal. Had standoff with game warden snoopin in my GW. They have no search and seizure restrictions, so he was within his right. After the pointing of firearms at each other, he actually put me on different birds. Didn't get bird I scared off till next season. Its actually faster to slim jim the door button than screwin up the vent window. Hope you catch the crooks on film. Good luck
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:20 PM
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give us a pic of the broken wing window latch parts still on the window, maybe it can be repaired without replacing the entire window ( its a serious PITA)
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:11 PM
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/64292424@N07/9974060365/" title="2013-09-27 11.21.14 by bruner1981jpce, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2882/9974060365_790b1f0004_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="2013-09-27 11.21.14"></a>
This is what the wing window looks like now. I don't believe it is repairable, but I wouldn't know for sure, the whole latch was broken off of the frame
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cant see the image and the link no workie, if the shaft from the window frame is still intact then there is hope....
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:33 PM
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Sorry, i grabbed the wrong code from the website. this one should work


2013-09-27 11.21.14 by bruner1981jpce, on Flickr

sadly the shaft is not still intact. it was the shaft that got broken
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:57 PM
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OK - ouch

In my opinion you have two evils to choose from, you can find someone to sawsall off a shaft and have one tac welded on..........................................


OR, remove all the innards of the door, regulator, door lock mech, and remove all the main windoe regulator channel screws so you can dislocate the big window so it sits aside....

then remove the screws along the door frame holding the triangle frame and work it out thru the top - you will trash the upper wipes - so order new ones...

if you go this route i suggest - suggest - - you may want to concider new wipe sets and vent window and felt channel felt seals from BJ's or TGW....it GONNA COST YA...

Once you see how much of a PITA it is to remove the wing frame and window - dont be suprised if a seller asks for a hundred + shipped

i just did mine recently - so feel free to ask questions...
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:48 PM
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I was just talking to SCNEBFSJ who is parting a jeep right now and said $40 for the wing window assembly. I didn't realize it would be that much work though. Now I want to find those thieves and ring their necks at the very least . If I could find out how to actually remove the glass for the window from the frame, I could probably fix what I've got now. I took a closer look at the shaft and all that happened to it was one of the edges broke off at the end of the shaft. If I could get a spacer or something in there and epoxy or JB weld it in place, it could work. I was able to get the latch back into the frame, but it was too loose because one of the edges was broken. Do you think that could work?
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:52 PM
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I feel you. I hate these idiots that mess with our vehicles.

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If you are worried about them stealing the whole FSJ then install an ignition interrupter switch that cuts the voltage off to the ignition.

This makes me laugh, I had a solution a bit more ....... painful years ago.

Keyless entry unit on a truck W/O power locks.
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What?? you ask?

Loudest horn I could find mounted in the cab, lock unlock wires to solenoid that only needs momentary juice to switch (dont recall what it was from, something for a boat) .

Works like this.....
Unlocked = all is normal.
Locked = turn on key (or hotwire) BEEEEEEEP Mother........ by the way, no power to anything else until you figure it out, and I'll be there by then to educate you.

I had earplugs in when I tested it, and knew it was coming, and still near broke my wrist on the steering wheel (reactive jerk away instincts suck sometimes) when it went off.

Thats gona suck to fix. Thats also why I am going the "dont lock it, just lock up all my stuff inside " route.

Hope you get it fixed, and they catch the idiots that did it.

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I feel you. I hate these idiots that mess with our vehicles.



This makes me laugh, I had a solution a bit more ....... painful years ago.

Keyless entry unit on a truck W/O power locks.
.
.
.
.
What?? you ask?

Loudest horn I could find mounted in the cab, lock unlock wires to solenoid that only needs momentary juice to switch (dont recall what it was from, something for a boat) .

Works like this.....
Unlocked = all is normal.
Locked = turn on key (or hotwire) BEEEEEEEP Mother........ by the way, no power to anything else until you figure it out, and I'll be there by then to educate you.

I had earplugs in when I tested it, and knew it was coming, and still near broke my wrist on the steering wheel (reactive jerk away instincts suck sometimes) when it went off.

Thats gona suck to fix. Thats also why I am going the "dont lock it, just lock up all my stuff inside " route.

Hope you get it fixed, and they catch the idiots that did it.

Jim
I LOVE this idea! I want to do it right now! I'm gonna look in to that. Maybe even wire it to the door switch that triggers the interior lights.

gsmikie, you are awesome! I'm ordering one right now!
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:44 PM
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Probably should have ordered 2 at once to cut back on shipping. Oh well
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yeppers 3 things

1. Keyless entry. As suggested I've had one for years great deterrent. Unfortunately it's not the total solution.
I have an air horn & lights connected to it. You can also get one with a paging system since no one in apartments pay attention to them. They usually complain to the LL & get you to stop using them so they can break into them. You have to remember to a thief the alarm is saying there's something in here worth protecting. Still the pros outweigh the cons.
Like this one I have. it has a pager.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Viper-3303-2-Way-Responder-LC-Security-System-Car-Alarm-w-Keyless-Entry-/360733855638?pt=US_Car_Alarms_Security_Systems&has h=item53fd69cf96&vxp=mtr
2. You can buy door lock systems cheap.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-X-UNIVERSAL-HEAVY-DUTY-POWER-DOOR-LOCK-ACTUATOR-MOTOR-12-VOLT-/161011781949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d0c d13d&vxp=mtr




You can buy this one for the locks & not use the remote it would connect to the viper. Depends on whether you want 2 doors or 4 doors. you'll be all off in the door replacing the vent anyway.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Door-Power-Lock-Conversion-Kit-2-Keyless-Entry-Remote-Full-System-New-/140750624019?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item20c5641513&vxp=mtr



3.Get out of the apartments it will only continue Crack heads won't be deterred much by the alarm. The real Key to safety is not parking in a dangerous area. Apartments qualify as dangerous.

Vent window Really no brainer check link.. Drill a hole put a screw & nut in it until one of the ones link the link get there. OR do this to both sides until you get out of the apartments.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/eBay-Motors-/6000/i.html?_nkw=jeep+wagoneer+vent+window&_nkwusc=jeep +wagoneer+vent+wiindow&_rdc=1&_gtc=1

Give up on the band aid repairs to the vent window. It will take all day but replace the entire assembly. Do it once.

This is a plan. But $$$$$
gsmikie,
Thanks for that link I'm buying 2 sets to use a back up & seal mine up these are cool. Not replacing the originals but using them to pull the windows tight.
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Time to go to the flea market this weekend... Or CL.

The vent lock is what I have too, as well as the missing tool box.... 12 years ago.

The whole assembly is a pain to remove and install, usually the fsj at pick and pull are in bad shape, but sometimes you can get lucky.

I tried the jb weld, wo success. Someone suggested to pop the rivet and install new oem rivet, that can be purchased somewhere.
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1. Keyless entry. As suggested I've had one for years great deterrent. Unfortunately it's not the total solution.
I have an air horn & lights connected to it. You can also get one with a paging system since no one in apartments pay attention to them. They usually complain to the LL & get you to stop using them so they can break into them. You have to remember to a thief the alarm is saying there's something in here worth protecting. Still the pros outweigh the cons.
Like this one I have. it has a pager.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Viper-3303-2-Way-Responder-LC-Security-System-Car-Alarm-w-Keyless-Entry-/360733855638?pt=US_Car_Alarms_Security_Systems&has h=item53fd69cf96&vxp=mtr
2. You can buy door lock systems cheap.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-X-UNIVERSAL-HEAVY-DUTY-POWER-DOOR-LOCK-ACTUATOR-MOTOR-12-VOLT-/161011781949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d0c d13d&vxp=mtr




You can buy this one for the locks & not use the remote it would connect to the viper. Depends on whether you want 2 doors or 4 doors. you'll be all off in the door replacing the vent anyway.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Door-Power-Lock-Conversion-Kit-2-Keyless-Entry-Remote-Full-System-New-/140750624019?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item20c5641513&vxp=mtr



3.Get out of the apartments it will only continue Crack heads won't be deterred much by the alarm. The real Key to safety is not parking in a dangerous area. Apartments qualify as dangerous.

Vent window Really no brainer check link.. Drill a hole put a screw & nut in it until one of the ones link the link get there. OR do this to both sides until you get out of the apartments.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/eBay-Motors-/6000/i.html?_nkw=jeep+wagoneer+vent+window&_nkwusc=jeep +wagoneer+vent+wiindow&_rdc=1&_gtc=1

Give up on the band aid repairs to the vent window. It will take all day but replace the entire assembly. Do it once.

This is a plan. But $$$$$
gsmikie,
Thanks for that link I'm buying 2 sets to use a back up & seal mine up these are cool. Not replacing the originals but using them to pull the windows tight.
Thanks for the advice serehill. I'm not in this apartment long-term, just for the remainder of the school year, and then I'll be moving into my fraternity house. There have never been any theft problems there. Put a bunch of agriculture majors who are all very conservative in one house, I'll let you all figure out why there's never any theft there .

The alarm system with the pager does sound really nice, one of my brothers just got one over summer, but being a college student that system is a little out of my budget. I'd like to stay under $100 for the system, and so far this is what I've found
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crimestopper-SP-101-sp101-1-way-Car-Alarm-and-Keyless-Entry-Security-System-/290981564994?pt=US_Car_Alarms_Security_Systems&has h=item43bfda5242&vxp=mtr

and this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qty-2-Universal-12-Volt-Power-Door-Lock-Actuator-Motor-/300909960770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460fa1 9e42

I do want to replace the entire assembly for the wing window, but i'm pretty limited on options and money right now. I'm going to save the pieces from my current assembly for now, and when I get some time at home (probably Christmas break) I'm going to talk to my old boss from my summer internship at a machine shop and see if I can't make a new shaft for the latch. We'll see how it all goes. I hate college budgets
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Good deal

Good luck hope the guy gets caught.
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Man, I am so sorry to hear about that Andy. My driver side vent window looks EXACTLY like that too. It was like that when I bought it a few years ago. I wonder if someone broke in before I got it. I still haven't gotten around to fixing it. I have had it out for other reasons though and yes, it is definitely a pain to get out and a bigger pain to get back in.

I almost always leave my doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Maybe I'm just weird/lucky, but I haven't had anything stolen. Fortunately for me though, I have a truck and a tool box that locks. You could unbolt the toolbox maybe, but there is about 300-400 pounds of tools and parts in there I'd guess. Good luck getting it out of there.

I hope they find the moron(s) that did this to you. I've had hundreds of dollars of fishing gear stolen from the back of my truck years ago when I was standing just 50 feet away but just out of sight. You feel naked and violated. Good luck with everything brother.
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